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My dem niece posted this. A step in the right direction (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 3 years ago by grtdayn 3 years ago by grtdayn +199 / -0
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– HatePickingUserNames 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Turdeau (the current PM) always says sorry for what OTHER people did and no doubt he has apologized many times for the wrong doings of others on this topic. And the government of Canada did set aside money for compensation for abuses resulting from the residential schools and did officially apologize. I don't disagree with that.

As for the second point, the residential school narrative is used to promote critical race theory and bolster it. That is a problem. The fact that there are a lot of lies and exaggerations in the narrative makes it worse because it means the media is using inaccuracies and lies to manufacture outrage and getting away with it.

As for the buried bodies, there were no buried bodies discovered. That is a MSM hoax. Basically, they pointed ground penetrating radar at an orchard and found objects in the ground, which you would expect (tree roots, rocks). They then claimed they were bodies even though ground penetrating radar does not have the resolution to identify objects. They never dug up one body. That is my main points about the residential schools story. The push so many lies about it and supress any counter-points. Counter points such as that many of students had a good experience in these schools (doesn't mean the were a good thing overall, but the truth matters). Here is a link that goes a bit more into the buried bodies hoax:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/trudeau-lied-about-the-bogus-mass-grave-story-just-like-hes-now-lying-about-the-truckers/

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– Buttery 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I'll leave you to debate a historian on the level of abuse in the residential schools and its impact on the students and their succeeding generations. Not something I want to wade into tbh.

Edit: wanted to mention that it is a fair point to being up the technology used to discover the bodies and the fact that they weren't exhumed. Just consider that some may not want the remains of their great uncles and aunts dug up to prove a point to anyone that they feel doesn't need proving.

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– Vaguelyswami1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

My grandmother was incarcerated in a residential school for seven years…. It doesn’t effect me one bit.

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– HatePickingUserNames 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

My argument is not that the residential schools were a good thing. It is that the media in Canada has co-opted it and skewed the entire narrative for their own political purposes. There is no doubt that some children have had really bad experiences in those schools and some passed away (some potentially from neglect but others from natural causes, childhood mortality was much higher the further back you go) and it should be acknowledged as it has been. However, there are children who had fond memories of those school. It does not mean that the program was good as a whole or should ever be repeated (it should not) but to misrepresent it to such as degree by silencing some voices and promoting others does a disservice to everyone.

And the lesson from it is missed by almost all the politicians who exploit this issue for their political purposes, especially Trudeau. That lesson is that the government should be given less power over the people, not more. Any time it does anything, it screws it up. Furthermore, taking away the native's guns (which Trudeau wants to do, along with the rest of Canadians) is only going to open the door for things like this to happen into the future.

I wish your grandmother and you well.

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– Vaguelyswami1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I completely agree…. My grandmothers experience was tragic however it has no impact on my life other than a deep distrust of government. The politicization and continuance of the suffering through insane concepts as “bone memory” do nothing but perpetuate the tragedy.

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– Buttery 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'm sorry to hear that.

Do you feel that if she was given the same opportunities as non-indigenous children that she could have been more successful in life, provided more opportunity to her children, including your parent, who then could have provided more opportunity to you?

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– Vaguelyswami1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

She was Dukhobor, not indigenous…. They were escapees from Russia who lived communally, kinda like Amish. The BC government took offence at their lifestyle and incarcerated their children. To answer your question, no…. Despite her institutional upbringing there have been no deleterious effects on my family.

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– HatePickingUserNames 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Except no specific person is even alleged to have been buried there. If you read the article, it goes into this. No one pointed and said my relative is buried there. They listened to some unsubstantiated rumours and started scanning the ground in the area for bodies. The only thing they found was abnormalities in an apple orchard where you would expect them due to the tree roots. There are no un-accounted-for bodies. Even if there are remains there (unlikely but possible), no ownership of them can be established so no one actually can object to the exhumation at this point. Here is the relevant quote from the article:

Reliable death records exist and report no mass graves. The government of Canada did an in-depth analysis of the goings on at Indian Residential Schools as part of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission which took place between June 2008 and mid-December 2015. The most reliable information was collected from all over the country at that time, and all deaths at the Kamloops school were accounted for.

You should not blindly believe what you see in the Canadian press. I'm not sure what evidence would be required to convince you that they are dishonest. I have tried to point out their lies to you, but that is all I can do.

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– Buttery 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So now you trust government analyses? ;)

Oral records of missing students and childhood memories of digging graves is what prompted the search. I don't really place a lot of faith in those, especially the extreme fallibility of memories. If I doubt the woman who claimed to remember being abducted by the royal family every night to be abused by reptilians, I'd be a hypocrite to accept memories of other trauma victims as fact.

The water is murky, but I feel the history of the residential schools stands on its own.

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