I can create a website in a day. He has the organization already as most of his previous people jumped ship and went with him.
He needs money for salaries, equipment, paying for the website, paying informants, and much more. He can't do it for free. "Paytriot" is a derogatory terms for anyone you're jealous of. All websites cost money, and content costs money. If someone does this full time, they need a salary for food, shelter, etc.
It was announced exactly what happened with the old company. The board was infiltrated with the enemy.
"Some good things"? He's exposed a lot of corruption, such as Acorn and Planned Parenthood's baby parts business.
"Paytriot," as used on here and many other places actually is derogatory. It assumes that anyone who has to pay bills shouldn't make the money to pay those bills. If you're fighting the enemy as a full time career, you have to make money somehow.
I don't care if you dislike him. I'm not upset with anyone here. I just have to point out incorrect statements occasionally when I see them.
Can you support your family without ANY income?
Can you pay employees without ANY income?
How about funding for equipment? Office space? Informants? Websites? Free lancers?
You think this is all free? Or that he should go 100% out of pocket?
A "paytriot" is someone that grifts, selling magic crystals, or diet pills, or fake Trump coins... on the backs of people who trusted them, and no longer do, for a quick buck.
James is the opposite of this. He built trust and earned his donations for over a decade - he gets ousted from the company HE built because he was too far over target and now you call him a "paytriot"? That's lame as fuck and you are an absolute clown if you believe this horseshit.
Let me know when you release a massive undercover video sting against a multi-billion dollar Pharma company with $0 income. I'll wait.
Can you support your family without ANY income? Can you pay employees without ANY income? How about funding for equipment? Office space? Informants? Websites? Free lancers?
Well, can YOU support MY family is the comparison to make. I'm not asking anyone to support my family or my employees. And by the way, if it's a real company, you start with volunteers then you can eventually pay them... Especially if it's a news based company. There are plenty of journalists that are willing and able. How about asking for volunteers?
I'm not even the guy you responded to and I'm not against raising money, but caution is always recommended.
But it isn't like O'Keefe is a noob coming out of left-field on a hail mary project. He's got decades of experience, talented teams, and an understanding of exactly what is needed to produce PV level content or better. He would not risk his reputation on a new project/grift when he knows damn well he can get at least* 25% of his supporters to join OMG vs. PV... and that's being conservative.
I donated to PV at each big drop O'Keefe brought forth. I donated to the legal funds for election fraud. Trump's campaign. The AZ Audit. I helped financially support Voat.co.
Are these all "Paytriots"? No, of course not. But money makes the world go around, like it or not. To expect O'Keefe to go from millions of donors and high quality journalism via undercover tactics, down to a bootstrapped amateur hour where he needs to grind out low quality content for another 10 years prior to re-reaching PV audience levels is absurd.
"If it's a real company you start with volunteers"... what? That's not how the world works. I own a real company, I had to bust my ass to pay employees, if* it was employee-owned then maybe I could have gotten away with $0 pay at first for a revenue sharing model... but that's a risk to them and me.
O'Keefe can't afford to lose his trusted team, and while I'd like to believe that they'd stick with him pro bono, their children's well-being and bills may not be so patient.
O'Keefe asking for funding for OMG is respectable and appropriate. I placed a bet on his reputation in exchange for more red pills, NO REGERTS!
And btw, the answer to your questions, would I support your family and your employees? Assuming you produced earth-shattering content as a journalist and stared down the Elites with your middle finger held high - damn right I would help to support your family and employees. Like I did w/ James.
When you start a company, or a business, you don't start with volunteers. People want to be paid for their time. We started a business, there was no way in hell people would have volunteered to work for us with the promise that we can eventually pay them!! No way!! That's not how you start a company. WE didn't get paid, as we owned the business, however there's no WAY anyone would have worked for us and not gotten paid. Just want to clear that up.
First off, I have started a business and you know what? I paid the employees because I got work that pays me, and I in turn could pay them. Then I expanded to more employees as I accrue more work. That's how business works.
More to the point, I'm speaking more of journalism and media upstart in which you can incorporate volunteers, and freelancers.
And I'm not even saying O'Keefe shouldn't all for money... I'm more defending the poster who got shit on.
Also, as far as I know, when you start a business,you pay the people, I don't. That's the issue that was brought up. My volunteer statement is in lieu of asking for money.
I can create a website in a day. He has the organization already as most of his previous people jumped ship and went with him.
He needs money for salaries, equipment, paying for the website, paying informants, and much more. He can't do it for free. "Paytriot" is a derogatory terms for anyone you're jealous of. All websites cost money, and content costs money. If someone does this full time, they need a salary for food, shelter, etc.
It was announced exactly what happened with the old company. The board was infiltrated with the enemy.
"Some good things"? He's exposed a lot of corruption, such as Acorn and Planned Parenthood's baby parts business.
"Paytriot," as used on here and many other places actually is derogatory. It assumes that anyone who has to pay bills shouldn't make the money to pay those bills. If you're fighting the enemy as a full time career, you have to make money somehow.
I don't care if you dislike him. I'm not upset with anyone here. I just have to point out incorrect statements occasionally when I see them.
I'm with ya koala. something is off here it seems to me. EVERYONE on GAW is lapping it up. have we gotten too comfortable?
Bro...for real NO with all that. He's proved by his actions who he is. Support him or don't but, don't call him a grifter.
Oh shut up.
Can you support your family without ANY income? Can you pay employees without ANY income? How about funding for equipment? Office space? Informants? Websites? Free lancers?
You think this is all free? Or that he should go 100% out of pocket?
A "paytriot" is someone that grifts, selling magic crystals, or diet pills, or fake Trump coins... on the backs of people who trusted them, and no longer do, for a quick buck.
James is the opposite of this. He built trust and earned his donations for over a decade - he gets ousted from the company HE built because he was too far over target and now you call him a "paytriot"? That's lame as fuck and you are an absolute clown if you believe this horseshit.
Let me know when you release a massive undercover video sting against a multi-billion dollar Pharma company with $0 income. I'll wait.
Can you support your family without ANY income? Can you pay employees without ANY income? How about funding for equipment? Office space? Informants? Websites? Free lancers?
Well, can YOU support MY family is the comparison to make. I'm not asking anyone to support my family or my employees. And by the way, if it's a real company, you start with volunteers then you can eventually pay them... Especially if it's a news based company. There are plenty of journalists that are willing and able. How about asking for volunteers?
I'm not even the guy you responded to and I'm not against raising money, but caution is always recommended.
But it isn't like O'Keefe is a noob coming out of left-field on a hail mary project. He's got decades of experience, talented teams, and an understanding of exactly what is needed to produce PV level content or better. He would not risk his reputation on a new project/grift when he knows damn well he can get at least* 25% of his supporters to join OMG vs. PV... and that's being conservative.
I donated to PV at each big drop O'Keefe brought forth. I donated to the legal funds for election fraud. Trump's campaign. The AZ Audit. I helped financially support Voat.co.
Are these all "Paytriots"? No, of course not. But money makes the world go around, like it or not. To expect O'Keefe to go from millions of donors and high quality journalism via undercover tactics, down to a bootstrapped amateur hour where he needs to grind out low quality content for another 10 years prior to re-reaching PV audience levels is absurd.
"If it's a real company you start with volunteers"... what? That's not how the world works. I own a real company, I had to bust my ass to pay employees, if* it was employee-owned then maybe I could have gotten away with $0 pay at first for a revenue sharing model... but that's a risk to them and me.
O'Keefe can't afford to lose his trusted team, and while I'd like to believe that they'd stick with him pro bono, their children's well-being and bills may not be so patient.
O'Keefe asking for funding for OMG is respectable and appropriate. I placed a bet on his reputation in exchange for more red pills, NO REGERTS!
And btw, the answer to your questions, would I support your family and your employees? Assuming you produced earth-shattering content as a journalist and stared down the Elites with your middle finger held high - damn right I would help to support your family and employees. Like I did w/ James.
You went an awful long way to basically just say I like the dude and his past work, and I'll pay and support his future endeavors.
When you start a company, or a business, you don't start with volunteers. People want to be paid for their time. We started a business, there was no way in hell people would have volunteered to work for us with the promise that we can eventually pay them!! No way!! That's not how you start a company. WE didn't get paid, as we owned the business, however there's no WAY anyone would have worked for us and not gotten paid. Just want to clear that up.
First off, I have started a business and you know what? I paid the employees because I got work that pays me, and I in turn could pay them. Then I expanded to more employees as I accrue more work. That's how business works.
More to the point, I'm speaking more of journalism and media upstart in which you can incorporate volunteers, and freelancers.
And I'm not even saying O'Keefe shouldn't all for money... I'm more defending the poster who got shit on.
Also, as far as I know, when you start a business,you pay the people, I don't. That's the issue that was brought up. My volunteer statement is in lieu of asking for money.
You’re crazy
Beat me to it, Lol