True, and sometimes you can just "feel" something to be true based off so many invisible, intangible factors. Like how I quickly started to break out of the early 2020 fear and realize that we were being scammed via COVID, and that it was just another wealth and power transfer scheme like all others through history, and that the vaccines were a big scam.
I guess my question is, say, I believe in God, and Jesus, and my faith is Christianity, and my faith has a book -- a doctrine -- which is the word of God, which gives order to the lives of His followers.
Supposedly, studying and researching the "Occult", which is the study of things hidden from view, would necessarily fall into the concept of "eating from the tree of knowledge". Even though there is technically the ability to use occult knowledge for the pursuit of truth, light and goodness, to me it would seem that this would go directly against God (at least God as I understand)? Does God wish to keep us ignorant, or is there an incorrect correlation I am making here?
I guess my question is, say, I believe in God, and Jesus, and my faith is Christianity, and my faith has a book -- a doctrine -- which is the word of God, which gives order to the lives of His followers.
Faith is the keyword in this entire argument/discussion.
Does God wish to keep us ignorant, is there an incorrect correlation I am making here?
I think it's more of a "trying to fit something into my 'truth' box that doesn't fit."
If evidence doesn't fit into your Truth Box, then maybe your truth box is too small. Maybe that truth box was made too small so that you wouldn't look at the evidence that doesn't fit.
I get what you're saying, but what about the point I made about God's law and eating from the Tree of Knowledge, which is essentially what occult study is all about? Where does the line become drawn?
edit: I was not the one who downvoted you, just fyi.
I sometimes feel the need to let people know that it's not me either, especially when I disagree. In my thousands of comments on this board, I can probably count the number of downvotes I've given out on one hand. It's a terrible system designed to shut down conversation. It is a system of control of the narrative, and it's intrinsically evil. It creates and sustains echo chambers, and I hate it.
Where does the line become drawn?
The line is drawn either where you want it to be, or where you believe God want's it to be. I can't solve that conundrum for you.
You believe in the truth of your box. You also believe it isn't "your" box, but is "God's" box. That is the fundamental issue. I suggest God AKA Source doesn't have a box, or if Source has a box, it boundaries are unknowable by us.
I suggest that Source has no desire to limit knowledge. I also suggest that the book that told you to not eat from the Tree of Knowledge said that specifically to keep people in the wrong box (AKA not God's actual box).
I think that because I have spent a lot of time investigating YHWH, and the Jews who worshiped him (and the Jews who didn't). Where he came from, what he really said and did, what kind of a god he was. Did you know he calls himself the "Jealous One"?
Exodus 34:14
Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
What kind of Source could possibly be jealous? It is SOURCE. It is the SOURCE of ALL things. How could Source be Jealous of Itself? This isn't just saying "I am jealous when you worship other gods," this is saying "My Name is Jealous."
What the actual fuck?
This Jealous God is, by the decree in question (Tree of Knowledge) jealous of information as well.
This "guarding of information" is exactly like all the systems that control us today, in a book written by the exact same people that control us today, AKA the Priest Class of Jews. (The OT was not written by "The Jews,", it was written by the Priest/Moneychanger class, AKA the Elite). They are the people that wrote the book you call "Complete Truth." When you dig in, you find that they have held the reigns of power for the entire time in between then and now.
In order to rectify learning knowledge with "thou shalt not learn knowledge because my name is Jealous," you must first rectify whether or not any evidence could possibly be forbidden by the Source of All Things.
If so, then do not look outside of the box of truth you have been handed. It depends on what you choose.
I prefer to not use the word "God." IMO it is confusing, because there have been quite a few different "god's" that people called "God," all believing they alone "knew the truth." However, there is only one Source, and that is not confusing.
if you can think in terms of "Source," I suggest this question takes care of itself.
True, and sometimes you can just "feel" something to be true based off so many invisible, intangible factors. Like how I quickly started to break out of the early 2020 fear and realize that we were being scammed via COVID, and that it was just another wealth and power transfer scheme like all others through history, and that the vaccines were a big scam.
I guess my question is, say, I believe in God, and Jesus, and my faith is Christianity, and my faith has a book -- a doctrine -- which is the word of God, which gives order to the lives of His followers.
Supposedly, studying and researching the "Occult", which is the study of things hidden from view, would necessarily fall into the concept of "eating from the tree of knowledge". Even though there is technically the ability to use occult knowledge for the pursuit of truth, light and goodness, to me it would seem that this would go directly against God (at least God as I understand)? Does God wish to keep us ignorant, or is there an incorrect correlation I am making here?
Faith is the keyword in this entire argument/discussion.
I think it's more of a "trying to fit something into my 'truth' box that doesn't fit."
If evidence doesn't fit into your Truth Box, then maybe your truth box is too small. Maybe that truth box was made too small so that you wouldn't look at the evidence that doesn't fit.
That's pretty much my entire point.
I get what you're saying, but what about the point I made about God's law and eating from the Tree of Knowledge, which is essentially what occult study is all about? Where does the line become drawn?
edit: I was not the one who downvoted you, just fyi.
I didn't think it was you that downvoted me. :)
I sometimes feel the need to let people know that it's not me either, especially when I disagree. In my thousands of comments on this board, I can probably count the number of downvotes I've given out on one hand. It's a terrible system designed to shut down conversation. It is a system of control of the narrative, and it's intrinsically evil. It creates and sustains echo chambers, and I hate it.
The line is drawn either where you want it to be, or where you believe God want's it to be. I can't solve that conundrum for you.
You believe in the truth of your box. You also believe it isn't "your" box, but is "God's" box. That is the fundamental issue. I suggest God AKA Source doesn't have a box, or if Source has a box, it boundaries are unknowable by us.
I suggest that Source has no desire to limit knowledge. I also suggest that the book that told you to not eat from the Tree of Knowledge said that specifically to keep people in the wrong box (AKA not God's actual box).
I think that because I have spent a lot of time investigating YHWH, and the Jews who worshiped him (and the Jews who didn't). Where he came from, what he really said and did, what kind of a god he was. Did you know he calls himself the "Jealous One"?
Exodus 34:14
What kind of Source could possibly be jealous? It is SOURCE. It is the SOURCE of ALL things. How could Source be Jealous of Itself? This isn't just saying "I am jealous when you worship other gods," this is saying "My Name is Jealous."
What the actual fuck?
This Jealous God is, by the decree in question (Tree of Knowledge) jealous of information as well.
This "guarding of information" is exactly like all the systems that control us today, in a book written by the exact same people that control us today, AKA the Priest Class of Jews. (The OT was not written by "The Jews,", it was written by the Priest/Moneychanger class, AKA the Elite). They are the people that wrote the book you call "Complete Truth." When you dig in, you find that they have held the reigns of power for the entire time in between then and now.
In order to rectify learning knowledge with "thou shalt not learn knowledge because my name is Jealous," you must first rectify whether or not any evidence could possibly be forbidden by the Source of All Things.
If so, then do not look outside of the box of truth you have been handed. It depends on what you choose.
I prefer to not use the word "God." IMO it is confusing, because there have been quite a few different "god's" that people called "God," all believing they alone "knew the truth." However, there is only one Source, and that is not confusing.
if you can think in terms of "Source," I suggest this question takes care of itself.