bigsix is completely correct. I worked in tech in soCal for the last 10 years.
I say this with all due respect - but if you believe that something is truly turned off because the User Interface tells you it is off - then you are Exactly who the tech sector preys on the most.
The follow up question that most well mannered citizens ask is -
Who and why would they want to be so devious?
I give you - Satan. The Great Deceiver.
Tech is the achilles heel of this time.
It's not even a line that follows a generational divide - it's simply a Knowledge divide.
Today's tech operates on systems that are so Opaque and far removed from the knowledge base of the average person - that the ONLY choice the average person has is -
Either operating With the tech and trusting that no bad intent is baked into such platform/device, etc.
Or not operating with that tech.
And it's not even like simply knowing code yourself comes in handy in this situation - you can't access that stuff (unless you're really into cracking) or you're on the business campus where this stuff is made.
You're truly at the mercy of the people Making the devices and apps we all carry around in our pockets.
And look at how well that has worked out in the last 3 years... LOL.
I spend the last 10 years working along side these people - many are my friends.
And many really hate everything America has stood for and want to change it.
And they can do it freely because neither us - nor Congress (LMAO) can see, or monitor, or even understand what systems those people are creating for us to all unwittingly buy into.
So where does that leave us?
Either participate with this tech - understand that everything you do with it is likely tracked in some way shape or form. And operate within that Awareness.
Or ditch the tech and go to Amish style living (nothing wrong with that).
My choice? Use the tech with awareness that if this War we're in goes south, The bad guys are coming for me eventually.
Whether I'm on an Amish Farm (later) or I'm fighting the fight (sooner).
There is no escaping - only beating them to the finish line by using their own tools.
What we and McAfee are saying though is the data collection goes beyond that.
Think of your phone as a device that is listening to you and sending that data to collectors - whether you have it turned on or not.
Think of your phone that is sending data about your location to collectors - whether you have it turned on or not.
Think of your phone as a device that has a camera on it that could be visually recording you and sending that data to collectors - whether you have it turned on or not.
Seems really crazy, doesn't it? Why would they do that? Why would anyone care about getting that stuff from you?
It's not you they're after right now - and right now might not be when they're after you.
But because the phones we keep with us (even turned off) have the capabilities I've listed - anytime "the bad guys" want data on the people they ARE interested in - They already have it.
So when are they going to be interested in you?
As long as you have a phone near you or with you - It very much does not matter if you use it for shopping or use it for social media.
The phone could be turned off and sitting in a different room from you.
It is still capable of sending your GPS data.
It is still capable of hearing your conversations.
It is still capable of recording you with it's camera.
What you do on the phone does not matter.
It's the fact that you HAVE the phone with you.
This is what you must be aware of, or you are living with a false sense of control.
Doesn't matter if you dont shop or use social media on your phone (this is social media)
They track you in many many different ways. They can even watch your eye movements through camera and know what you like to look at. Its scary stuff honestly
bigsix is completely correct. I worked in tech in soCal for the last 10 years.
I say this with all due respect - but if you believe that something is truly turned off because the User Interface tells you it is off - then you are Exactly who the tech sector preys on the most.
The follow up question that most well mannered citizens ask is -
Who and why would they want to be so devious?
I give you - Satan. The Great Deceiver.
Tech is the achilles heel of this time.
It's not even a line that follows a generational divide - it's simply a Knowledge divide.
Today's tech operates on systems that are so Opaque and far removed from the knowledge base of the average person - that the ONLY choice the average person has is -
Either operating With the tech and trusting that no bad intent is baked into such platform/device, etc.
Or not operating with that tech.
And it's not even like simply knowing code yourself comes in handy in this situation - you can't access that stuff (unless you're really into cracking) or you're on the business campus where this stuff is made.
You're truly at the mercy of the people Making the devices and apps we all carry around in our pockets.
And look at how well that has worked out in the last 3 years... LOL.
I spend the last 10 years working along side these people - many are my friends.
And many really hate everything America has stood for and want to change it.
And they can do it freely because neither us - nor Congress (LMAO) can see, or monitor, or even understand what systems those people are creating for us to all unwittingly buy into.
So where does that leave us?
Either participate with this tech - understand that everything you do with it is likely tracked in some way shape or form. And operate within that Awareness.
Or ditch the tech and go to Amish style living (nothing wrong with that).
My choice? Use the tech with awareness that if this War we're in goes south, The bad guys are coming for me eventually.
Whether I'm on an Amish Farm (later) or I'm fighting the fight (sooner).
There is no escaping - only beating them to the finish line by using their own tools.
Welcome to the resistance!
Thank you - I’m using and totally aware, why I don’t shop via my phone or use social media.
What we and McAfee are saying though is the data collection goes beyond that.
Think of your phone as a device that is listening to you and sending that data to collectors - whether you have it turned on or not.
Think of your phone that is sending data about your location to collectors - whether you have it turned on or not.
Think of your phone as a device that has a camera on it that could be visually recording you and sending that data to collectors - whether you have it turned on or not.
Seems really crazy, doesn't it? Why would they do that? Why would anyone care about getting that stuff from you?
It's not you they're after right now - and right now might not be when they're after you.
But because the phones we keep with us (even turned off) have the capabilities I've listed - anytime "the bad guys" want data on the people they ARE interested in - They already have it.
So when are they going to be interested in you?
As long as you have a phone near you or with you - It very much does not matter if you use it for shopping or use it for social media.
The phone could be turned off and sitting in a different room from you.
It is still capable of sending your GPS data.
It is still capable of hearing your conversations.
It is still capable of recording you with it's camera.
What you do on the phone does not matter.
It's the fact that you HAVE the phone with you.
This is what you must be aware of, or you are living with a false sense of control.
Doesn't matter if you dont shop or use social media on your phone (this is social media)
They track you in many many different ways. They can even watch your eye movements through camera and know what you like to look at. Its scary stuff honestly
Thank you all for your patience in explaining. Kinda a catch 22 - to see what’s going on you need tech, use tech you get watched by big brother.