It is my understanding that citizens are corporate entities under USA, INC. and it’s altered Constitution. Citizen “rights” are actually privileges given by the Gov (corporation), as where a State National is not a corporate entity and has inalienable rights given by God under the original constitution. Citizens are under contractual corporate law and State Nationals are under common law. Anybody else understand this line of thinking?
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A State is a corporation just as much as the United States Government is a corporation. This misunderstanding comes from not understanding what a corporation is. A corporation is, by definition, a legal fiction, a legal entity. A "corporation" incorporates an entity. To "corporate" means to give corporeal form. It is a "fiction" because it is not really corporeal, it is legally corporeal.
It serves as an entity that can sue or be sued, as if it were a real (Natural) person.
It functions purely a shield behind which all fuckery takes place.
The "USA" is not only as much as a corporation as each State is, it is exactly the same type of corporation (legal entity). In both cases they are, by definition, governmental corporations. Their design purpose is to serve, in a court of law, as a shield for those in power from the consequences of their actions.
A "Citizen" is a subject to a governmental corporation. They lose their rights on the whims of their masters, the government. A government doesn't have to be a corporation (legal entity, i.e. a shield from the law), but all the ones we know about are. THAT is the fuckery, and it was built into the system that all countries have, all done by the exact same entity.
USA, Inc stuff is a smokescreen. It has nothing to do with the real fuckery, which began on day one of the Constitution.
Anyone who is under any system of formal law (including Common Law) are subject to a legal fiction.
"Common Law" used to mean "the law of the land." Or "the law everyone agreed on." It is an informal idea. When it became a formal system it came to mean "the law dictated by judges." A Judge is a formal position in a social hierarchy. It can be a king, or someone assigned by a king, or assigned by a government, or whatever. It is a person, appointed by a governmental corporation (legal fiction) that serves as a lawgiver.
All current systems of formal law commit the same Jurisdictional fraud. They all claim that you are under their Jurisdiction. In other words, they claim the right to rule you; to determine what you can or can't do everywhere within their domain, which is always effectively everywhere (with our current governments), including your own home.
Anyone who claims the right to rule you presupposes they have claim to your inalienable Rights as well. It is impossible to both have a "ruler" (of any variant) and have people who understand their Rights are their own, and no one else's (the definition of a Sovereign).
I believe you are half right. A citizen gives dominion over themselves to the Corp Gov control. If you look closely being a citizen puts your residence in the District of Columbia, a foreign territory. As where a State National puts your residence in the state you were born in. Supposedly this is the huge hurdle hinging point. The separate Nation State which you claim your authority to under the original Constitution. Not the Federal Gov.
I suggest this is not quite right, or is at least incomplete. When it comes to trying to understand legal matters, it is essential to look to the source of legal definitions used by those who enforce legal matters, a la Black's Law Dictionary (BLD). Looking to BLD the word "Citizen" means:
Definition 1
Definition 2
A Citizen is someone whom any governmental corporation can claim jurisdiction. All of the systems we call "government" on the planet that we know about today are, in the legal sense, "corporations". That includes your
Every single one of those governmental corporations has claim to you. You are a subject to all of those Entities' Jurisdictions. They claim the right to rule all of the citizens under their jurisdiction (which is the definition of "jurisdiction"). I put them in the order I did because that is the hierarchy of the claim on you. The United Nations sits at the top of the heap. They have the greatest claim on you. Your town/city has the least claim, though it is still substantial, and is why you have to pay them lease payments on your house (we mislabel that lease payment "property taxes").
The way this hierarchy is set up is by treaty. The dynamic between a municipality and the state is a little bit different because the State is the authority that incorporates each of the municipalities, so the hierarchy I outlined above is not quite right (which is why the last three are capitalized as they are legally (by proclamation of law) Sovereign Entities). It would be more appropriate, in the concept of "treaties" (which I'm about to get to), to state the hierarchy of "Ownership" of you (effective ownership) is:
It is by Treaty that these entities determine their claims to you as subject of their jurisdiction. The States (a corporation) have the first claim, but it is the lowest claim, as in, it can be overruled by the next higher entity. Next, the States have a Treaty with the Nation (United States Government, a corporation) which legally (AKA "by law" AKA by Treaty) subjects (claims as a subject to their authority) each of the people who are Citizens of that State to the National Government (U.S. Government). That Treaty we call "The Constitution." This Treaty gives the U.S. Government claim on you under certain conditions of “national security,” which they themselves determine. This didn't come about "recently" or in "1871". This Treaty gave the U.S. Government the right to claim you at any time they saw fit from the very first day it came online (9/17/1787).
The National Government (U.S. Government) then has a Treaty with the United Nations that gives them a greater claim to you. This Treaty gives the United Nations claim on you under certain conditions of "international threat", which they themselves determine.
You are worried about the method by which this is accomplished. That’s fine, it’s not unimportant, but the details are less important than understanding the larger structure that enables it, and the underlying fraud that makes it possible.
The fraud is what I was talking about before. It is their claim of “Right to Rule you” that they are making that is fraudulent. NO ONE has the right to rule you (tell you what you can or can’t do).
They make laws that give them claim to certain punishments for certain violations of action. They do it primarily through claim that they own all the property (that is why they can tax your property). Thus, even if you are on property you think you own, they can lay claim to you at any time for any reason they want. That is what a "warrant" is. It is just a part of the fraud, and we submit to it because it is "legal." It is also why the IRS doesn't need a warrant. They can come and take everything you own on suspicion of a “tax crime” (which even there is generally just a violation of IRS code which more often than not has no correlation in actual law).
Through this claim of ownership (and the legal system to back it up through the Banking system and their militant arm, the IRS and/or the various municipal/state/federal police departments, which were all created by the Banksters (Rockefeller et al)) there is no where you can go that they can’t tell you what you can or can’t do BECAUSE they own that land, you are on their property OR, you are on the States property and the Treaty says they can. There is no where you can go where they can’t lock you up and throw away the key at any time, at least from a legal standpoint.
What each of these actions really is, is an Act of War. A part of The Fraud is the claim that we are their subjects and they are our Liege Lord. We are not, and they are not. Such things as "subject" and "Liege Lord" are impossible by Natural Law. They only become possible by agreement. They make a claim of ownership, and you agree. The reality (Natural Law AKA The Laws of the Universe) is We are the Ultimate Authority of ourselves, and by extension, our property. ("Property" is a social construct, but if it is defined within a society, each individual is the "owner" of their "property" by understanding of social agreement of what "property" is.) "Ultimate Authority" means Sovereign. That is the definition. Thus, when they attack you (arrest you) it is an Act of War, one Sovereign Entity on another.
An Act of War is not necessarily a bad thing. The main part of The Fraud is that we don't realize that an arrest, or a fine, or property tax, etc. is an Act of War. We don't understand that all these fundamental processes of civil (and criminal) law are Acts of War, one Sovereign onto another. If that were really understood, none of the "governing bodies" would make hardly any of the laws that have been made because the laws are made assuming "Ruler" to "subject," not Sovereign to Sovereign. Also important to note, is that with that understanding there is implicit the understanding that each Sovereign has the fundamental Right to not enjoin the Treaty (be a part of the "City" e.g.), and/or the Right to exit the Treaty at any time, as a Sovereign. In such a case they would be "going it alone," which has its disadvantages, but it is still a fundamental Right of each Individual, each Ultimate Authority (with the Jurisdiction of themselves and their property), each Sovereign.
It’s “foreign” because your state is a Sovereign Entity. ALL states are Sovereign Entities. Every state is “foreign” to every other state. The District of Columbia is, exactly like every other state, “foreign” to all states. It is NOT foreign to the United States Government. On the contrary, the U.S. Government owns that property. It also owns Puerto Rico and several other places, not the least of which are many places within the borders of each state (National Parks e.g.).
I suggest it is irrelevant whether your statement is true or not. The FRAUD is in their claim of You under their jurisdiction. That is the SAME EXACT FRAUD that the State makes, and your city/county. Thus it doesn’t matter that the U.S. Governmental corporation does that, because your State governmental corporation does it as well, etc.
That it is a “huge hinging point” is, as I suggested before, the smokescreen that prevents people from seeing the actual fraud that I have mentioned (claim of jurisdiction).
Thank you for explaining all of that. It does seem like you would be chasing your tail as when you escape one jurisdiction you fall into another one. The dude I’ve been listening to seems to think all jurisdiction stems from USA, INC. housed in DOC. Something to do with banking laws the way all the different levels of government, Fed to local are tied together. He is heavy into Trust and Contract law. Apparently all relationships with any gov are contractual by nature and can be killed by knowing how the documents that make up the contracts work and freeing yourself from them. Brandon Joe Williams, David Straight, David E. Robinson, Anna Von Reitz. All resources for this line of thinking. I’ll have to post more info as I learn it. That Brandon dude is taking it a step further and killing contracts with banks and discharging many different forms of debt and teaching others how to do it too. All by using the same contract law, codes, and statutes that they use.
This is the problem. People don't realize how long this has been going on. They see recent fuckery (where by "recent," I mean the last 150 years or so), and assume that's when it started. That is not what my investigation suggests. On the contrary, the evidence (that I've seen) suggests that this exact same fuckery has been going on for thousands of years. The latest "findings" are only the evidence of the latest iteration of it. For example, the individual States claimed ownership long before the U.S. Government existed. The U.S. Government claimed ownership long before later iterations of the U.S. Government did (where by "later," I mean the government that existed after new amendments, laws, etc. which effectively created a completely new form of government).
Before it was "States" and "Democratic Governments", it was The Church, acting through the "Divine Right of Kings," where The Church would proclaim a certain King had the right to claim ownership of the Individuals occupying the land that they had already claimed ownership of. The Kings processed this claim through The Church's blessing, thus The Church was the real ruler there. This was effectively identical to the present system, with the King serving as "the State" having a lower claim, and The Church serving as the U.S. Government having a higher Sovereign claim to ownership of the Individual over the King's/State's claim.
But it goes back even further. This is the way the world has worked for a very long time. When you dig in, you find it is the exact same group of people running the same show, being remade with a new cast of characters and called "the latest thing."
This is mostly correct, and I could elaborate on that for days. In fact I am writing a book on this very topic. The first part can be found here.
It's as much subversion of government as actual law, though it does enter law through Treaty. The Fed is a Sovereign entity through the BIS. The U.S. Government has a Treaty with the BIS, and has proclaimed in their own laws that the BIS's claim to Sovereignty is agreed upon. One corporate entity can't be a Sovereign unless it is agreed that they are. For example, the U.S. Government (a legal fiction) claimed Sovereignty, and The Crown (another legal fiction) disagreed. They had a fight, Triangle wins. (That's a line from They Might Be Giant's song "Particle Man," but is amazingly appropriate here as well. In fact, that whole song explains pretty much everything. It's amazing.) When "Triangle won," The Crown then agreed with the claim of Sovereignty.
These agreements are done (in the legal sense) through Treaty. Only Natural Persons are Sovereign (Ultimate Authority) without requirement of such legal agreement, because only Natural Persons exist by Natural Law. It requires a completely different system of law to incorporate a fictional entity, thus it requires other laws contained within that system to agree upon the Sovereignty (Ultimate Authority) of that legal fiction. This of course is a complete fraud, having nothing to do with Natural Law, and is indeed an attempt to subvert it (by the creation of an "agreement" between fictions all of which only exist in the mind). Even the concept of a Hierarchy of Sovereigns is a fraud (you can't have a "greater Ultimate Authority," it is a concept that makes no sense), but that fraud is perpetrated through Treaty, i.e. one Sovereign agrees to give up their Right to claim authority to another. This of course can be revoked at any time, because it only has power if both parties believe in it.
Of course if the stronger party believes in it, if they are much stronger, than the other party's feelings are irrelevant, at least in effect. The choice is always there, but the stronger party can make the only choices available very unpleasant (comply or die e.g.).
I've looked into Anna Von Reitz stuff. She doesn't really talk about what I'm talking about. Either she doesn't understand (which is entirely possible) or she is purposefully leading people away from the fundamental problem. Without addressing the fundamental issue the problem can't be solved. At best you may get the U.S. Government (the stronger party) to recognize your Rights as the Ultimate Authority over you and your property, but that doesn't really lead to a path out, because the U.S. Government still holds enthralled everyone else and any agreement only holds until they decide it doesn't (as the stronger party). Worse, as far as I have seen, If that "legal freedom" is even possible to accomplish they haven't really elaborated how to do that in a reasonable way. It is for this reason I think they may be a smokescreen, designed to hide the real problem. Again, I'm not saying that is the case. Maybe they just don't know. But when you start digging into the evidence, controlled opposition is everywhere. They either might be themselves, or they may have learned from other controlled opposition agents, and that is why their work is obfuscatious.
If he has given a clear path to effect this, it would be interesting to see. If it is just claims that it has been done (which is what I've seen elsewhere), that is insufficient. I need real, primary evidence. Everything else is, from what I've seen, probably intentional bullshit.
The next part of my book (hopefully released in the not too distant future) will cover these topics.