Good question. I believe they're covered under the following -
"... electronic items like cellphones would not be permitted.
"The use of cellphones, laptops or any electronic devices will be strictly prohibited in the courtrooms. Any such devices will have to be turned off and secured outside of public view while in the courtrooms," ..."
-- as stated by Judge Merchan, according to the linked article. I didn't see anything specifically referencing audio recorders so can't be 100% sure, but the general tone of this ruling seems to prohibit recording of any kind during the proceedings.
I'd guess MI-NSA is all over this, will have audio and video (that won't be shown to the public). As for others, probably yes also and if so will most likely will be "leaked" to FNM and carefully curated for the purpose of bolstering their narrative.
No non-electronic audio recorders that I can think of, but then I think you're missing the point that the issue is a distinction between types of recorders being visual/audio-visual or audio-only.
As I said, I believe that audio recorders are probably not permitted though I can't be 100% sure. The reason why I think anon u/Emyrylde 's question was a good one stems from a careful reading of the article and using discernment. While we can be reasonably sure that not everything the judge said was included in the article, it's likely that if he had addressed audio-only devices, they would/should have included that in the article. That being the case, the article, in addition to the headline pointing specifically to "live cameras", addresses recording in three separate instances, ALL of them SPECIFICALLY VISUAL. From the article...
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(1) Specifies "photos or live video" only -- "... New York Supreme Court Judge Juan Merchan said the court would allow a "limited number" of videographers, photographers and radio journalists to be present but denied the motion to allow photos or live video during the court session. ..."
(2) Specifies "camera" only -- "... In his ruling, Judge Merchan said he considered "all relevant factors" — which included whether the camera coverage would "interfere with the fair administration of justice… with law enforcement activity, the objections of the Defendant; and limitations related to the physical structure of the courtroom" — but ultimately denied the motion. ..."
(3) Specifies "cameras" only -- "... In the request, District Attorney Alvin Bragg, on behalf of the people of New York, argued the presence of cameras in the courtroom "raises a number of concerns." ..."
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While "any electronic devices" would seem to be an umbrella under which an audio recorder would fit, the judges ruling was in response to a motion to allow visual recordings. Strictly speaking there's a possibility that, taken in context of that, audio-only recorders might be allowed. Might. But I doubt it. Hope that clarifies things.
Does it specifically say no audio?
Good question. I believe they're covered under the following -
"... electronic items like cellphones would not be permitted.
"The use of cellphones, laptops or any electronic devices will be strictly prohibited in the courtrooms. Any such devices will have to be turned off and secured outside of public view while in the courtrooms," ..."
-- as stated by Judge Merchan, according to the linked article. I didn't see anything specifically referencing audio recorders so can't be 100% sure, but the general tone of this ruling seems to prohibit recording of any kind during the proceedings.
If electronic devices are allowed in at all, bet your A someone will illegally record it
I'd guess MI-NSA is all over this, will have audio and video (that won't be shown to the public). As for others, probably yes also and if so will most likely will be "leaked" to FNM and carefully curated for the purpose of bolstering their narrative.
What audio recorders would be non-electronic?
I think the non-electronics ban would apply to audio recorders as well, even if they didn't specifically state them.
No non-electronic audio recorders that I can think of, but then I think you're missing the point that the issue is a distinction between types of recorders being visual/audio-visual or audio-only.
As I said, I believe that audio recorders are probably not permitted though I can't be 100% sure. The reason why I think anon u/Emyrylde 's question was a good one stems from a careful reading of the article and using discernment. While we can be reasonably sure that not everything the judge said was included in the article, it's likely that if he had addressed audio-only devices, they would/should have included that in the article. That being the case, the article, in addition to the headline pointing specifically to "live cameras", addresses recording in three separate instances, ALL of them SPECIFICALLY VISUAL. From the article...
.
(1) Specifies "photos or live video" only -- "... New York Supreme Court Judge Juan Merchan said the court would allow a "limited number" of videographers, photographers and radio journalists to be present but denied the motion to allow photos or live video during the court session. ..."
(2) Specifies "camera" only -- "... In his ruling, Judge Merchan said he considered "all relevant factors" — which included whether the camera coverage would "interfere with the fair administration of justice… with law enforcement activity, the objections of the Defendant; and limitations related to the physical structure of the courtroom" — but ultimately denied the motion. ..."
(3) Specifies "cameras" only -- "... In the request, District Attorney Alvin Bragg, on behalf of the people of New York, argued the presence of cameras in the courtroom "raises a number of concerns." ..."
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While "any electronic devices" would seem to be an umbrella under which an audio recorder would fit, the judges ruling was in response to a motion to allow visual recordings. Strictly speaking there's a possibility that, taken in context of that, audio-only recorders might be allowed. Might. But I doubt it. Hope that clarifies things.