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He was a bad guy for sure, what does that have to do with people? Praying to angels and saints today?
I am genuinely trying to understand why some people pray to saints and angels regardless of the biblical teachings.
Because it's something catholic church has always said to do, and anyone inclined to read the bible for themselves already joined the protestant reformation.
Nailed it
I understand. I'm hoping the discussion will open some eyes.
False. The schism was demonic, as is the continual infestation and corruption of the original church and the easy infiltration of all the sects. When I see evil burning down the shipping center businesses canning themselves temples, I'll know they actually have something going.
Just because there's cleaning to do, you do not burn down a house He established. What was the greatest mistake of Moses? Upon seeing the golden calf being worshipped, he BROKE the tablets of GOD'S COMMANDMENTS. He broke something that God Himself had established. How badly will it go for those who broke His church? I shudder to think about it.
I dont think reading the Bible for yourself counts as "breaking the church". Problem is too many bishops decided their own edicts were equal in authority to scripture and made up their own rules. That problem continues to this day
Which is exactly why dogma is unrelated to priests' opinions. Or preachers' opinions. Or bad translations compounded by opinions.
As a former catholic i can confirm this
I can pray for you, you can pray for me. Your (and my) body dies and our souls live forever, just as Mary, Saints and all of those that have gone before (and will after us). This is why we ask for prayers FROM ALL and continue to pray FOR ALL (souls in Purgatory) and those beyond. Remember, our quest (and HIS PROMISE) is ETERNAL (Paradise!). Prayers, to and from are for souls, NOT dust. Open your eyes and the mind may follow. Peace be With You, Fren!
May we both grow in Christ's love.
No one prays to them, please educate yourself before bearing false witness. If we can ask for someone here on earth to put in a good word for us, what is the difference? We all clearly ask for them to PRAY FOR US. Explicitly, clearly- pray for us. We need all the help we can get, especially since people keep angering the Lord. Like, by continually insulting His mother!
I am trying to educate myself. Please show me where in the Bible it says I am to pray to saints and angels. Or for that matter carry around a rosary.
God bless you, I'm not retranslating your Bible for you, not going to re-litigate documented miracles for you. Agsin, no one prays to anyone but God. We all for intercession, clearly- PRAY FOR US. Do you believe in the power of prayer? Do you believe that groups of good people praying together for a common cause get more grace from God than one person by themselves? If those good people are closer to God than I am, you better believe I'm going to ask them for help. That's where a bunch of miracles get documented.
All I'm asking for is a Bible verse that says we are to pray to saints and angels. Not asking for some fancy retranslation. No documented miracles here. Just some scripture. You can't show me because it's not there.