Amen. WWG1WGA πβοΈ
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Non Catholic version: Father I pray to you in Jesus name... insert prayer here hehe
Thatβs right. No intermediary
Catholics do not pray to an intermediary. We simply ask for her to pray for us. Hence 'Holy Mary, Mother of God, PRAY for us sinners..'
You know, much in the same way that many non-Catholics ask their friends or family for their prayer when encountering hard times. In fact I see many now use the term almost as a throw away. 'Oh my kids are crawling up the walls today. Pray for me.'
Catholics figure if anyone can ask any ol' random sinner friend or family for help in prayer why not also be able to ask Mother Mary, who birthed our savior, for help in prayer.
The answer is that Mary is dead. She cannot hear you. She is with the father. To say she can hear you is to make a deity out of her. Christ commanded us as the bride to gather togather and pray to the father in the name of the son. No other way is taught in scripture. Only God is omnipotent and omnipresent
You may want to reread my post. Nowhere did I say that Mother Mary was omnipotent or omnipresent. It appears you are arguing some caricature of how you believe or have been told a Catholic warships.
You are also making some very important assumptions about the ability to hear when spending eternity with The Lord and correlating that ability to only belonging to a deity. Nor you or I have the knowledge to make that assumption. But you and I CAN agree that God can give or take ANY ability to whom He desires.
You appear to also be, either intentionally or by convenience, corrupting scripture by outright disregarding the many promises of eternal LIFE. Meaning to live. Meaning one NEVER dies. To make the statement "The answer is that Mary is dead." Is in direct contradiction to what scripture promised every one of us should we follow the teachings of Christ.
Unless, of course, you are saying that Mother Mary lived a sinful life and if so did not repent. Is that what you are attempting to convey? Let's get on with it. What exactly are you saying here?
I left these bible verses below to help you formulate your reply. Look forward to it.
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life."
John 2:17
"The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever."