No offense but you are not at all addressing the concerns you're replying to.
It's not a matter of people needing to give up $8 daily coffees or their avocado toast so they can pinch pennies to become self sufficient. People can barely pay their bills or afford gas to get to work.
Beyond that, there are million upon millions or people living in tiny apartments.
How are people like that supposed to do anything about their food and water supply?
The idea of growing your own food and being totally self sufficient is a wonderful one made for a totally different world, where it's way more common to own land, and where your neck isn't pinned to the ground by city regulations (for raising livestock within city limits).
I refuse to believe that the billions of people in this world that, for whatever reason, can't just 'pull themselves up by the bootstraps' more than they already are, are screwed. There just have to be things in place that will fix this, because the idea of throwing the problems at our feet is absurd.
Even if you grow your own food, your land, air and water is subject to environmental contaminants. If pernicious nanotech is being released on an environmental scale, we will need a large scale decontamination project. And the sources of this pollution need to be dealt with.
I believe the Qanaut post suggested gathering together in your local community to tackle water filtration issues and community gardening. I don't believe he was suggesting any of these people do everything all on their own. Somehow the ideal of his post was muddied between learning how to be self sufficient and banding together with your community to tackle these bigger problems that are extraordinarily difficult on your own. I agree with both his post points. We need to organize into communities of common interest and purpose, but we must also learn to be more self sufficient to tackle other obstacles all on our own. Many of us are introverts and/or fairly self sufficient and used to doing things alone, or perhaps I am simply projecting. Ultimately, independence requires skills that many do not have, but can take the time to learn. Becoming involved with local like minded individuals can increase your quality of life and allow people to continue specializing in small areas of skills, while relying on community members to support the gaps in your skills or knowledge. At least that is what I got out of his post.
No offense but you are not at all addressing the concerns you're replying to.
It's not a matter of people needing to give up $8 daily coffees or their avocado toast so they can pinch pennies to become self sufficient. People can barely pay their bills or afford gas to get to work.
Beyond that, there are million upon millions or people living in tiny apartments.
How are people like that supposed to do anything about their food and water supply?
The idea of growing your own food and being totally self sufficient is a wonderful one made for a totally different world, where it's way more common to own land, and where your neck isn't pinned to the ground by city regulations (for raising livestock within city limits).
I refuse to believe that the billions of people in this world that, for whatever reason, can't just 'pull themselves up by the bootstraps' more than they already are, are screwed. There just have to be things in place that will fix this, because the idea of throwing the problems at our feet is absurd.
Even if you grow your own food, your land, air and water is subject to environmental contaminants. If pernicious nanotech is being released on an environmental scale, we will need a large scale decontamination project. And the sources of this pollution need to be dealt with.
I believe the Qanaut post suggested gathering together in your local community to tackle water filtration issues and community gardening. I don't believe he was suggesting any of these people do everything all on their own. Somehow the ideal of his post was muddied between learning how to be self sufficient and banding together with your community to tackle these bigger problems that are extraordinarily difficult on your own. I agree with both his post points. We need to organize into communities of common interest and purpose, but we must also learn to be more self sufficient to tackle other obstacles all on our own. Many of us are introverts and/or fairly self sufficient and used to doing things alone, or perhaps I am simply projecting. Ultimately, independence requires skills that many do not have, but can take the time to learn. Becoming involved with local like minded individuals can increase your quality of life and allow people to continue specializing in small areas of skills, while relying on community members to support the gaps in your skills or knowledge. At least that is what I got out of his post.