I’m a teacher in TN and phones will be the reason I quit. We are able to confiscate, but are financially liable for the phone. This year I had this conversation with my admin, about making them all put their phone in a box and locking it during class and that’s what they told me. They are ADDICTED. We would not put up with them smoking crack in class, but this is just as destructive and disruptive. That being said, my husband teaches at a school 10 minutes down the road and they do not have this problem at all. Respect for authority and behavior are cultural aspects that build, or destroy, a community.
Students and their parents sign a Student Handbook at the beginning of each year (at least where I'm from).
Its less an issue of the confiscation, and more an issue of whether the student or their parent wish to risk suspension and possible expulsion for refusal to cooperate with and adhere to the rules set forth in the handbook.
Most school handbooks are quite clear about the use of electronic devices in the classroom, and of the teacher's authority to confiscate said items in the classroom. If students disobey these rules, they are nullifying the contract between the school and the student / parent.
The argument of "its the students property" does not fly in a classroom environment. Students are there to learn, not to tweet, film the classroom, post to tik tok, etc. It becomes a safety concern at that point. There are students who are not allowed to be filmed on school grounds per the FERPA (Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act) guidelines. Students who bring their phones to class are violating the rights of other students not to be put on camera on school grounds.
This is why we have students who are behaving like goblins in the classroom. Their actions are defended and justified by people who do not understand the field of education. Parents refuse to discipline their children, and teachers / admin have their hands tied on the matter now as well. The students understand this dynamic, and believe they have the right to disregard and ignore the authority of the teacher or educator in the classroom.
The result is that no learning is permitted to occur in our nation's schools because there is always an excuse for why children are behaving like animals. The end result is our nation in perpetual decline while counties like Russia and China are producing students who are capable of calculus and trigonometry while our students can't even manage to tie their shoes.
The other issue is that students are forced into "education" and so was the student forced or coerced into the agreement. Is she truly there voluntarily? And of course, her age plays into it too is she 18?
I do agree that there should be other avenues for education beyond the classroom. Our education system is totally broken on all levels, and there absolutely should be an avenue to have children engage in a trade or an internship / apprentice if they do not desire a classroom structure.
At a fundamental level though, our children absolutely must be given structure and must be taught to respect authority figures and adults in their lives. We are raising a generation of students who believe it is appropriate to tell a police officer to "fuck off, " leading to incidents of unnecessary arrests, resisting arrests, and jail time for what should have been a simple traffic ticket. These behaviors start at a young age, and develop into destructive personalities that follow these children into adult hood.
Much must change post Great Awakening, and the first thing that we need to bring back is respect and honor for adults, parents, and authority figures within a community. Children should not be encouraged to disrespect others.
That's not how the 2nd works. Now if the teacher put her life in immediate danger whilst taking her phone then it could be justified. But you can't just assult/murder over confiscated items during class.
Tell me she was arrested for assault.
That said, can teachers legally take your phone?
I’m a teacher in TN and phones will be the reason I quit. We are able to confiscate, but are financially liable for the phone. This year I had this conversation with my admin, about making them all put their phone in a box and locking it during class and that’s what they told me. They are ADDICTED. We would not put up with them smoking crack in class, but this is just as destructive and disruptive. That being said, my husband teaches at a school 10 minutes down the road and they do not have this problem at all. Respect for authority and behavior are cultural aspects that build, or destroy, a community.
Students and their parents sign a Student Handbook at the beginning of each year (at least where I'm from).
Its less an issue of the confiscation, and more an issue of whether the student or their parent wish to risk suspension and possible expulsion for refusal to cooperate with and adhere to the rules set forth in the handbook.
Most school handbooks are quite clear about the use of electronic devices in the classroom, and of the teacher's authority to confiscate said items in the classroom. If students disobey these rules, they are nullifying the contract between the school and the student / parent.
The argument of "its the students property" does not fly in a classroom environment. Students are there to learn, not to tweet, film the classroom, post to tik tok, etc. It becomes a safety concern at that point. There are students who are not allowed to be filmed on school grounds per the FERPA (Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act) guidelines. Students who bring their phones to class are violating the rights of other students not to be put on camera on school grounds.
This is why we have students who are behaving like goblins in the classroom. Their actions are defended and justified by people who do not understand the field of education. Parents refuse to discipline their children, and teachers / admin have their hands tied on the matter now as well. The students understand this dynamic, and believe they have the right to disregard and ignore the authority of the teacher or educator in the classroom.
The result is that no learning is permitted to occur in our nation's schools because there is always an excuse for why children are behaving like animals. The end result is our nation in perpetual decline while counties like Russia and China are producing students who are capable of calculus and trigonometry while our students can't even manage to tie their shoes.
I do agree that there should be other avenues for education beyond the classroom. Our education system is totally broken on all levels, and there absolutely should be an avenue to have children engage in a trade or an internship / apprentice if they do not desire a classroom structure.
At a fundamental level though, our children absolutely must be given structure and must be taught to respect authority figures and adults in their lives. We are raising a generation of students who believe it is appropriate to tell a police officer to "fuck off, " leading to incidents of unnecessary arrests, resisting arrests, and jail time for what should have been a simple traffic ticket. These behaviors start at a young age, and develop into destructive personalities that follow these children into adult hood.
Much must change post Great Awakening, and the first thing that we need to bring back is respect and honor for adults, parents, and authority figures within a community. Children should not be encouraged to disrespect others.
Are you really this thick or are you just pretending to be an idiot?
You cant be serious on this right? .....right?
That's not how the 2nd works. Now if the teacher put her life in immediate danger whilst taking her phone then it could be justified. But you can't just assult/murder over confiscated items during class.
I don’t want to agree with you but I’m struggling not to.