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I've never seen or heard of a case that anyone won using this Sovereign Citizen stuff. It's legal-ish sounding gibberish. And why is it that every case seems to be someone trying to get out of a parking or speeding ticket or not paying their child support.
That's because people who don't really know their stuff engage with it in the wrong way, and they end up simply getting owned by the system. They try to play the game in terms that don't actually come under the jurisdiction of the law courts.
When engaging with the law courts, one has to know very, very clearly what their jurisdiction is, and what it isn't, and know where you stand in that context.
By the way, think of the expression "sovereign citizen" in the same way you think of "conspiracy theory", and you'll start to grasp what is going on.
Great post. One thing to also keep in mind is Judges that are corrupt and will not follow the law. Same for prosecutors, etc. I have personally witnessed someone get convicted by a jury that was influenced and controlled by the judge. This person had no attorney, and the judge told him if he let the jury know he was being tried without an attorney against his will that he would be put away for the rest of his life. He was not allowed to present his evidence, and was unable to give any jury instructions. He was also told if he appealed he would be dealt with.
This was about 10 years ago, and it has gotten a lot worse today. Most courts are corrupt and you will not likely find a fair trial or any justice within a courtroom today.
Could you give me the name of a case where someone using the tactics you've described have won their case because of them?
Okay, but could you first define "win"?
In a court case? You want me to define for you what a win is in a court case?
Ok, let's see. We'll assume the person using Sovereign tactics is a defendant. So if they plead not guilty of whatever they're charged with, and their use of Sovereign whatever results in the court finding them not guilty, that's a win.
People are advised not to attempt using this stuff for the first time on a case with a heavy downside. It's common for people to challenge things like parking tickets, where the downside is having to pay a $50 fine and the upside is the building up of one's confidence in a courtroom.
Then at some point, after using those tactics for smaller things, their confidence should be at a level where they can successfully use it on a case with a "heavy downside". I would like to see a case where that has happened. Look, I'm not the one making claims that it works. People who buy into this stuff are the ones making such claims. When it's pointed out that people using those tactics lose, they say that the losers weren't doing it right. When asked for an example of when it was done right, they can't provide an example. Basically all they can do is argue that these tactics SHOULD work, usually by attempting to redefine words or by misinterpreting some legal issue. I'm not interested in any of that. I want to see an actual case where it HAS worked. Just one single solitary little case where these tactics have worked as claimed.
I am not trying to convince anyone that there is a magic process that circumvents the legal system, I am saying that the legal system is a corrupt system that only works because we have been misled into believing we are who we aren't. When someone who is aware of this tries to stand their ground and fight the system they are almost always crushed because the system doesn't have to play by any rules, they have a monopoly on violence.