Well said, I agree about the Minoan connection. Furthermore I believe the Minoan's sailed to north America and are responsible for the copper mining activities of Michigan's U.P. Testing of lake sediments indicate wide scale copper ore smelting dating back nearly 6000 years ago.
Mr Copper: "Fred Rydholm earned that title after a lifetime of studying the incredibly extensive mining enterprise undertaken by an unknown people in the Upper Great Lakes Region beginning more than 5,000 years ago." From "Unearthing Ancient America," 2009, preface to Mr. Rydholm's chapter on the mines. Minoan tablet was found in Newberry Michigan in 1898. Celtic and Viking artifacts were found further north but not close to the mines.
Apparently thousands of copper mines were hight active until ironworking technology made iron more attractive. I thought that Cyprus was central to all of it, cypric/cupric near monopoly of the market.
Pervasive: The massive cave complex discovered 1908 by G.E. Kincaid in the Grand Canyon had hieroglyphs, mummies and weapons all made from or covered in worked copper. Arizona Gazette, April 5, 1909. Problem- he went to the Smithsonian who acknowledges receipt of specimens but claims they can't find them. (Perhaps because the chambers were 2000ft above the Colorado River, which then requires accepting that the canyon was carved quickly during a cataclysm instead of the flimsy narrative of millions of years of erosion?)
Sorry, I was just reading through some of my stuff last week and had to tell somebody! Lol
I have not looked into Minoans, but Phoenicians had known "secret route" to South American where they got the tobacco they sold to the Egyptian Kings (tobacco only grew in N/S America). It is not that much of a stretch, imo, that others had routes to North America. Unknown if the NA copper smelting is connected to a precursor Tataria colony or civilization extension that appeared to exist in North America at some point.
Excellent data points, I appreciate the additional information added to this thread. And yes. Tartaria appears to be a link to these people groups, I believe the Tartars explored and made settlement along the west coast as well.
Well said, I agree about the Minoan connection. Furthermore I believe the Minoan's sailed to north America and are responsible for the copper mining activities of Michigan's U.P. Testing of lake sediments indicate wide scale copper ore smelting dating back nearly 6000 years ago.
Mr Copper: "Fred Rydholm earned that title after a lifetime of studying the incredibly extensive mining enterprise undertaken by an unknown people in the Upper Great Lakes Region beginning more than 5,000 years ago." From "Unearthing Ancient America," 2009, preface to Mr. Rydholm's chapter on the mines. Minoan tablet was found in Newberry Michigan in 1898. Celtic and Viking artifacts were found further north but not close to the mines.
Apparently thousands of copper mines were hight active until ironworking technology made iron more attractive. I thought that Cyprus was central to all of it, cypric/cupric near monopoly of the market.
Pervasive: The massive cave complex discovered 1908 by G.E. Kincaid in the Grand Canyon had hieroglyphs, mummies and weapons all made from or covered in worked copper. Arizona Gazette, April 5, 1909. Problem- he went to the Smithsonian who acknowledges receipt of specimens but claims they can't find them. (Perhaps because the chambers were 2000ft above the Colorado River, which then requires accepting that the canyon was carved quickly during a cataclysm instead of the flimsy narrative of millions of years of erosion?)
Sorry, I was just reading through some of my stuff last week and had to tell somebody! Lol
Oh no problem, and outstanding additions! Im happy to see some people are as passionate about these things as myself. Thank you for commenting!
That's really gracious of you. You definitely have my attention!
I have not looked into Minoans, but Phoenicians had known "secret route" to South American where they got the tobacco they sold to the Egyptian Kings (tobacco only grew in N/S America). It is not that much of a stretch, imo, that others had routes to North America. Unknown if the NA copper smelting is connected to a precursor Tataria colony or civilization extension that appeared to exist in North America at some point.
Excellent data points, I appreciate the additional information added to this thread. And yes. Tartaria appears to be a link to these people groups, I believe the Tartars explored and made settlement along the west coast as well.