Why is the Jan 6th tapes is so important for all of us?
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I'm asking as a devil's advocate to see why we REALLY want the Jan 6th tapes. I have a feeling that we were emotionally manipulated and gaslit on the importance of the Jan 6th tapes and why we really want and need them.
Be warned that I will be far more active in responding in this thread than normal, so be prepared for a rapid session of responses from me.
Because they reveal the lies.
Just 1-2 minutes on Tucker Carlson's show threw a massive wedge in the liars big lie and pony show of the 'j6 hearings'
So they reveal the lies. However, shouldn't the footage that is already released to Tucker Carlson, plus what we already have floating about the internet, be sufficient? A web of lies only needs a bit of truth to cause the whole thing to collapse. I would argue that what Tucker released should be enough to bring the whole narrative and case down, and it had with the release of the Shaman.
Plus, I would argue that the footage is only part of the solution, the means to broadcast it to millions of people and have them actually see it is important. Why else they released the footage to Tucker Carlson and not some Joe Smoe of the Q-News-Network or something?
We don't know what happened to some of that footage that was supposed to be released. Apparently he was only allowed to take specific clips, and when he was let go from Fox we don't know what happened to the rest of the footage. he had planned to air more, but Schumer had a hissy fit and stopped further airing.
There's not much Capitol hill footage out there, but we want to know the full truth. The best we have is pieced together from user's cell phones and various footage that has been released.
I agree that the footage being released in full is only part of the solution. Obviously the next step is to raise awareness by showing it around the world, then indicting criminals. Then the next step would be providing it to people imprisoned for decades over j6 so that we can get them out on an appeal.
Which full truth? That the Jan 6th riots is a bunch of lies? The footage that shows Q-Shaman got peacefully guided around by the police is a big enough bomb to that narrative that it practically died overnight.
The truth that Donald Trump do not want violence at the capitol? His statements on Twitter and Truth Social, plus videos of him stating it as such, should put that lie to rest permanently.
If it was not those, which full truth you want exposed?
There's other people who are in jail because the truth is being hidden. They're locked up still, and in some cases will be locked up for decades. Their rights were denied.
But the biggest issue of the j6 hearings, is that they set up a false narrative that people gobbled up, and the truth of what they reveal will cause some people to red-pill and awaken.
And I assume that you think the Deep State will throw their hands up in surrender and just release all of the prisoners once a trove of footage is released...
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What you describe is a consequence of a deep state infesting the system that is, up until now, unchallenged and unafraid. What makes you think that the deep state is going to cower in fear of 40k hours of footage that will take forever and a half to look through?
What we need at that point is leaders with the balls to take a wreaking ball to the deep state and pave over the rubble. That leader is Trump, but we also need a cadre of statemen within the halls of Congress that is completely loyal to him.
And you are not confident that what we have right now is sufficient, that we need more footage released instead of better charisma, leaders, or media personalities that will beat over the head the truth until the normies accept the truth?
Do you want to be in jail for 35 years for just showing up and protesting? I don't, no one should. These people will be able to get a lawyer and begin an appeal based on new evidence.
I'm not sure if there's enough footage out there to help out every person who is in jail over j6. There's enough to break the narrative, but to get the prisoners freed.. that's a different story and may require more.
You right. It requires more. Maybe we can get the footage released, get the appeals process started, and hopefully the deep state will through their hands in surrender after that. Everything will be be resolved and we live happy ever after...
Do you have a back up plan if the happy ending does not come after the footage gets released? Because you better have a backup plan if the plan A fails, else this whole plan A sounds like an Underpants Gnome business plan: having a step one and an end goal, but fail to work out the in-between details.
There is an alternate plan, one that does not blow our trump card that is releasing the Jan. 6th footage: It requires someone who'll take a wrecking ball to the whole thing and crush the deepstate underneath our heels.
There is something like 40,000 hours of video from all the cameras. There is no way a controlled few can analyze it all. Until the entire world has it all for a year or two I will not be convinced the truth has gotten out.
Easier than you think. You are only looking for "purported" incidents and each has a place and time. So, you know which camera and which clip to review.
Assuming 60hrs per week of analysis with no vacation times, you'll need 13 people to get just the viewing of the 40k hours of footage all done within a year.
And that is assuming none of them quit from the sheer mental strain.
And one person is t going to notice anything. You really need facial recognition plotting peoples movements, interactions, etc. so when a human spots something interesting the subjects can be analyzed throughout the day.
Also, which lies are you referring to, SPECIFICALLY?
all the j6 hearing lies.
starting from minute1 of the hearing, and going to the last minute of the hearing.
That's a bit of a lazy cop-out. You don't have a specific list?
Also, I go back to the fact that a web of lies only needs a bit of truth to cause the whole thing to collapse. I am sure what we have already is enough to cause doubt to the whole Jan 6th narrative that the media was pushing heavily.
TGP covered these here:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/oans-dan-ball-jim-hoft-exposing-j6-lies/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/update-42-january-6-defendants-join-gateway-pundit/
The long and short is, the J6 was sham hearing to generate lies for the MSM to regurgitate on the world.
You're right there's already enough to cause doubt with the J6 narrative, but the problem goes back to the MSM regurgitating those J6 hearing lies and leading millions who listen to them into believing those lies.
So the big part of the problem is the MSM propagating the lies and covering up the truth. While releasing the footage might help combat the problem, there is also a problem that the MSM can just cherry-pick footage to support their narrative, the normies will lap it up, and never even bother looking beyond that. It would also have the potential of rendering future attempts to wake up the normies harder since the MSM have "innoculated" the population against the truth with our own demanded footage...
I bet that the normies didn't even see or know about the evidence we do have right now.
A better solution to wake up normies is to have what MSM channels we have under our control to broadcast analysis of the footage we currently have access to, to have said channels broadcast messages that combat the enemies' narrative, and to build up alternative media channels that we can use to siphon off traffic from the MSM.
They could be dropped on twitter, various other places in the public sphere online.
Better hope that Elon Musk does not stab us in the back, or that he cleaned up the site's coding enough that the truth will spread nicely. With an WEF thug coming into the company, it does sure looks bleak.
Because I was there. The footage that’s been released so far has been manipulated, it does not represent what actually happened at that event.
I spent the first two or three weeks, trying to explain to people in the marketplace, cashiers at the market, anywhere that I went, that what happened at the Capitol that day was a wonderful patriotic, uplifting event. There were people singing, the national anthem, and many patriotic songs. There were people with boom boxes on wheels, preaching the gospel. There were so many friendly faces, happy people, and just an overall positive energy of a collective group standing up with that for what they believe to be a stolen election. I even saw a little kids seven years old with his mother, preaching the gospel on a speaker box. He was powerful. I also took many pictures of wonderful, patriotic, outfits, pepes, and so much fun, loving patriots.
This is not what the video show, this is not what MSM has been reporting, this is not what anyone has shown at all. Not even on our side. Even any of the right wing so-called content creators.
Nothing about that day has been reported on honestly, correctly, or openly. Every step of the way it’s been manipulated. The number one reason the tape should be released, so each person can make their own decisions about what they feel like happened that day. What freedom of the press used to be. What a free an open market should really be.
Transparency
We live in a world now we’re everything is spoonfed to the masses, there is always a narrative, including left, and right. We are under one of the largest social engineering and psychological warfare campaigns in history. The best thing to do would be to release every minute of that footage, on a server, like the Hunter Biden files, and let people comb through it on their own. It doesn’t need to be released to a news outlet, or even any other right wing commentator. It needs to be released to the people, for the people, by the people.
The reason why it should be released is for -
We The People!
I was there, it was arguably one of the best days of my entire life. With all of the gaslighting, and all of the villainy involved with reporting on that event. I have remained resolute in my belief system. That was one of the best days of my life. And no one, and I mean no one will ever take that away from me
Not the liar and a thief Not Congress Not the senate Not MSM Not Satan No one!
Not even this thread! Come at me all you want with your reply, but it will never change my personal point of view of one of the best days in my life, and for this country. If you have seen that video of that guy in the tree, while Trump was speaking, that would just give you a glimpse into what I experienced that day. People need to see the truth!
That’s the first video that shows there was a half million people there that day. They were there for a reason, and that was because our election was stolen. So that would be my final reason for this footage needing to be seen.! The real insurrection was our government certifying a fraudulent election. That should be reason enough for the footage to be released. That’s the main reason we were there. But that’s been overshadowed by this fake in surrection, and that was the whole point of way they did what they did. To get the attention off themselves.
Okay, big question here: if the Jan 6th tapes is, in reality, all of the little cellphone footage and pictures that many of the patriots took that day, then why there was not a coordinated effort by our Patriots or Anons to gather as much footage and material from everyone that was on the ground and just dump it onto a server like you suggested?
If the footage and pictures are floating around enough that content-creators of all colors can create content out of them and draw their own story, then it should be available for all of us to round-up, catalogue, and just dump into a server.
All without going through Congress!
Yet, here we are. Twitching our thumbs.
Again, if the footage is floating around enough that right-wing content creators can create content out of the event, why there is no coordinated effort to gather up what is floating around in the internet either or in people's harddrives and store them all in a server? Why we need to go through Congress?
In fact, if they have the footage, why some of our right-wing MAGA content creators and influencers are not leading the effort to archive everything?
Catturd?
Wall Street Apes?
The Patriot Voice?
Gateway Prudent?
DC_Draino?
Alex Jones?
Tim Pool?
RSBN?
People on The GreatAwakening here on communities.win?
Anyone?
Hello? Am I speaking into an empty room?
You misunderstood me. I never questioned how proud and Patriotic the day was. I was on all lines of digital communications when the event went down, and I saw the energy that was flowing through the digital highway.
What I am questioning is why we all were so hung up over the Jan 6th tapes. You said it is to help expose the truth to everyone, but then you mentioned that there is enough content out there on the Internet Highway and in People's Hard drives, that is accessible right now, that right-wing content creators can make videos out of them. Now, my question to you is why are we even bothering with Congress with this video requests that we probably know we are not going to get good results from, and not gathering up every scrap of footage and picture ourselves and then dumping it all on the server like you suggested?
If what you said is true with regards to the availability of footage out there, then we at Q have some serious homework to do before we resort to congress fruitlessly.
Although, it should be noted that if the footage does contained uncensored faces and voices of Patriots that are attending the Jan 6th rally, Patriots that are, so far, free from unlawful harassment and retribution, then airing the footage outright might expose them to needless harm. MTG might have a point there...
Here’s my original post from two years ago.
Why don’t you turn me into the FBI! You seem to be more concerned about covering for them, then you do about having the truth come out.
I do care about the truth coming out. However, I am acting as the devil's advocate; it is my job to act like the other side and advocate for them in these debates to
-expose holes and cracks in our arguments that can be patched,
-strengthen the arguing skills of our side, and
-expose the real truth that might have gotten lost within the fog of war and group think
By the way, if you are getting this worked up over arguing with an Anon playing the devil's advocate in these sessions, imagine how much trouble you'll find yourself if you are trying to argue someone who is genuinely from the opposite side and is also intelligent. My advice, use more logic and less of appeals to emotion, and prevent yourself from getting to worked up when doing these debates.
If you can't do that, then I suggest that you exit these conversations and do not enter any more conversations in the future until you mastered your emotions and do not let them control you.
I don’t have all day to answer you. I have a life.
But I will say this… A lot of the January 6 footage, has been commandeered by Congress, the FBI or the CIA, and it’s part of peoples legal cases. Once that stuff was commandeered, people were not allowed to use it. That’s why you’re just now seeing after all these years, people posting more videos, because it’s available to them legally.
I cannot see why there is not been a website posted to release peoples footage, and each individual could post what they want it there, other than the fact that, for the last three years, we still have political prisoners in jail. Isn’t that the whole point, to make it so people are afraid to speak their mind, and speak the truth, without fear of going to jail. They are still arresting people as we speak, so, for there to be a website such as that, would be a honey pot for the FBI to go in interest whoever they wanted to for whatever reason they wanted to and put more people in jail
As for me, I’ve already posted my picture here, my videos, here, and on Facebook. This was at the beginning of this. I have re-posted my picture numerous times. So I’m not one of those people who is afraid to show what I saw.
Also, the footage that we all want to see it with the capital, police, or the capital, or whatever you wanna call it recorded. We don’t have footage of what happened inside the capital, that’s what I want to see. I want to see the footage of outside the capital, where their cameras are showing all the FBI agents, the antifa, and BLM people.
At the very least, they should release the footage for everything that happened in the Caple that nobody is even seen. That is reason enough.
Also, collectively… Who’s gonna host that website? Who’s gonna pay for that? And yes why I haven’t any of the people that you listed above done anything about it? For that matter, why hasn’t trump put up some thing?
But I don’t need to hear all of your excuses, and all the reasons why somebody hasn’t done some thing, when it comes to transparency. It shouldn’t matter whether we have a website or not, it shouldn’t matter whether we have our own videos that are not
The fact of the matter is there is footage, that we use American citizens have the right to see. It shouldn’t be contingent on my videos being shown just somebody, it should be contingent on the fact of our constitution. Our constitutional loan should allow us to footage that happened in the capital, which is the building we pay for, and it’s for weed the people. The government doesn’t on that building, we do, we should have the right to that film. End of story.
Personally, I don’t care what you think. You weren’t there
Proves Treason.
Okay, how does it prove treason?
Really? They rigged an election, they planned an insurrection to cover it up. What do you call it? A misdemeanor?
I am asking you how does the tapes prove treason?
To rig an election & cover it up is an act of treason.
The FBI knows who planted the pipe bombs. Just need to zero in on the cell phones in the area during the the time on the surveillance video filmed the person. If the magnetic lock on the Capital’s doors mysteriously are unlocked, and capital police open up the doors welcoming people in.
I have also seen video tapes on alternative media.
Okay, gonna need to take care of something somewhere else. Will continue to respond, but it will not be as quick.
What difference does it make? the Corrupt DOJ won't do a damn thing about it.
That's a bit off-topic, don't you think? Plus, it is my job to say that response, when it is appropriate.
Your job is to answer my questions.
Why do we REALLY want the Jan 6th tapes?