Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
We’ve recently read about how the WEF demons want to rewrite the Bible. That would be an extension of the longtime practice of misinterpreting or mistranslating the Bible. The common understanding of Revelation 6:8 is:
This is referring to one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. The Horseman of Death is thought to be riding a white horse or pale horse. This has become so inculcated in our culture that it is alluded to in Western movies such as Pale Rider and Tombstone.
In the analysis of the Greek language version of the verse, we can see that the English column’s “pale” is matched up with the Greek word “χλωρός” which is “chloros”.
The Bible Study Tools definition of “chloros” is
“Chloros
khlo-ros'
Adjective
NAS Word Usage - Total: 4
green
yellowish pale”
So the more probable translation from the Greek is that the Horseman of Death rides a green horse. What could green represent? Islam’s preferred representative color is green. Perhaps Death rides on Islam. Or, green could refer to the environmentalist movement that has been hijacked by the Climate Hoax. Perhaps Death rides on the climate hoaxers’ forced austerity and degradation of living standards.
In this post’s quote:
We can see that the rider of the white horse is really the Almighty. So did antiChrist elements purposely conflate the colors of the different horses so that when people see the white horse they’ll mistake its rider for the Horseman of Death?
The pale horse which is green can represent life.
Jesus Christ has conquered death, He owns it, and hell follows, he has overcome both for all mankind.
The lake of fire is the second death of Adam, or the Adamic in the saint.
I believe the Revelation of Jesus Christ is a picture of Jesus Christ conquering the Adamic in the church, in the saints.
There is no glory for the devil in the book. The four horses and their riders all represent Jesus Christ conquering in the saint.
The seals are the beginning the young Christian being transformed, the trumpets are loud realizations bringing "the kingdoms of earth have become the kingdoms of our God".
The 7 final judgments are what we always judge in ourselves to enter the Holy Presence if God.
The 1000 year reign is a present reality of the 144,000 perfect government in each saint.
144,000 is symbolic of perfect government we follow the Lamb withersoever he goeth and have overcome the beast the dragon and the false prophet Babylon.
The rest of Revelation 6:8 says that the rider of the chloros horse is given authority over a quarter of the earth, or the fourth part of the earth. Jesus wouldn’t divide Hie authority with three other riders. Jesus is not the rider of the chloros horse. Hell does not come with Jesus.
You can also tell by the sequence of the verses. The chloros horse shows up in Revelation 6:8 and then the white horse shows up in Revelation 19:11. They are not the same horse or the same rider. The chloros horse rider is one of four that make a big mess, and then later the white horse rider cleans up the mess.
Jesus Christ is typed many times in the book in a spiritual reading.
Death and hell no longer belong to the devil or the Adamic.
It's a faith issue.
The manchild born of the woman is the perfected sons of God born of the church.
Right when the manchild is born, heaven is cleaned up by Micheal and his angels. Micheal is Jesus Christ his angels are conquering sons of God, the dragon is cast from heaven to the earth.
Spiritually we cast the devil out of our heaven.
I realize this is foreign to most readers of the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
It's all about the unveiling of Jesus Christ in mankind, in the church, in the saints.
Earth is symbolic of our Adamic spiritual man. We are Adamic influenced by the serpent though we know it not, until we have a new birth experience.
When we are born of the Holy Spirit, we still have to contend with our carnal flesh man
Romans 8:6
Thank you, I appreciate your input in the thread.
Spiritual warfare is a fight.
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It's my favorite topic. It didn't use to be, I went 35 years as a Christian ignoring the book of Revelation because I didn't understand it.
I picked up a series with an idealist interpretive method and it all started making sense.
I'm word salady because I'm a bit slow. I do try to communicate as best I can.
Enjoy your post on the pale and white horses, I look forward to reading it.
Me and the wife recently watched Tombstone and the Pale Rider.
Noted the references as well.
Good day fren
Sorry about being testy. Maybe you’re right about some of this stuff and I should research and contemplate more before making a post. Something interesting is that in Rev 6:2 the first horse is also described as leukos or white. Maybe it’s the same leukos horse from Rev 19:11, or maybe it’s an impersonation. I suspect the latter, that it’s the horse of the antiChrist trying to impersonate the real Christ who shows up later. Or maybe it’s your hypothesis that none of the four horses are tools of the antiChrist. I’ll dig more…
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Awesome, thanks again,
We're supposed to be testy, I truly appreciate my words being tested.
1 Thessalonians 5:20 Despise not prophesyings. 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Test all things
Tradition makes the pale horseman the antichrist.
All death in the book is symbolic. No actual people are killed. Spiritual reality differs from physical reality.
BTW this is known as an idealist interpretive method or spiritual.
It is a picture of the end of the world dominating in the saint.
I believe it is also a fulfillment of
Romans 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
The whole book is always taking place in the church unto the perfect man of
Ephesians 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Unto perfection.
I think the problem is that you thought at the beginning of my comment I was talking about the same verse that you quoted. I wasn’t. I was talking about an earlier verse. Here’s the Greek analysis of Revelation 19:11. The English “white” is matched up with the Greek “λευκός” which is “leukos”. So the horse in the verse I quoted, Rev 6:8, is chloros, and then the horse in the verse you quoted, Rev 19:11, is leukos. They’re not the same horse.
No, I realize the pale(green) horse is not the same and not the same event as my favorite 1911.
The rider of the pale horse is not the Antichrist in an idealist interperpretation.
It can be, not everyone interprets it the same I'd guess.
For me, all the seals are representative of Jesus Christ being revealed or unveiled in the individual believer.
You'll notice the righteous beasts are very excited to show the four horsemen.......come and see!
The four living creatures(beasts) are specifically around the throne of God and the Lamb.
The throne is a spiritual realization of the power of God before the seals are broken as Christ comes conquering.
Why 1/4, I'm not sure, but all the work of sealing the sons of God is not yet accomplished. The trumpets prove that.
There's a lot of symbolism I don't yet get.
“yellowish pale” is only the secondary definition of chloros. The primary definition is just “green” with no mention of “pale”. For people to push “pale horse” instead of “green horse” or even “yellowish horse” seems like bad faith trying to confuse with the leukos horse, the white horse.
"This fourth horse is identified in the King James Bible as a pale horse. The translators had a difficult time with this word “pale” because its simple meaning is “green.” They couldn’t understand green in relation to death and hell, so they used the word “pale.” Other translators rendered it “ashy pale,” “sickly green,” “livid,” “color of ashes,” etc., in an effort to come up with something that would portray that which is sickly, hellish, or dead. One writer says, “The translation pale does not do justice to the horrible word used there! It is pallid or literally a greenish-yellow horse.” But, I ask — is that true?"
"Strong’s Concordance gives the meaning of the root word in Greek as simply “green.” The actual form of the word used in our text is kloros. The best key to discovering the meaning of any word is usage. This Greek word appears in only three other places in the New Testament. Let us look at how the word is translated there, and what its obvious meaning is by its usage. When Jesus was preparing to multiply the loaves and the fishes to feed the five thousand, we read, “And He commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green (kloros) grass” (Mk. 6:39). Do you suppose Jesus was talking about pale grass, ashy pale grass, sickly green grass, livid grass, pallid grass, or ash-colored grass? I don’t think so! Everyone knows that grass is known for its green color. The next two references are in the book of Revelation, the same book where the word is translated pale. Notice now how it is translated in the other two places! “The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green (kloros) grass was burnt up” (Rev. 8:7). “And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green (kloros) thing, neither any tree…” (Rev. 9:4). If this is such a “horrible” word, with such a “horrible” meaning, as the commentator above characterized it, why is all grass, trees, and vegetation of all kinds defined as being this color? Obviously, the word means green!"
"We meet the color green under another symbol in chapter four of the Revelation. Caught up into heaven, beholding the throne of God and Him that sat upon it, John said, “And there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald” (Rev. 4:3). Webster defines emerald as: (1) a green transparent variety of beryl used as a gemstone. (2) a clear deep green color. Ireland is called “The Emerald Isle” because of the abundance of lush dark green vegetation. The rainbow around the throne reveals the great truth that the throne is not a power of destruction, but the very power of life! While most rainbows have more than one color, this rainbow was in appearance like unto an emerald — accentuating only the color green. Green in scripture is the supreme color of LIFE! Yes, there is death to the old, but in the throne we ascend to the highest dimension of life — divine, incorruptible, immortal Life! John fell as dead before the face of the One sitting on the throne — his old Adamic life, identity, nature, and mind slain by the fiery glory of God! But let your heart consider the words of this glorious One when He says to John, “Fear not. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive for evermore!” In other words, “Don’t be afraid to give up your will, John, your ways, your desires, your emotions, your plans, your hopes, your dreams, your thoughts, your carnal, human identity. Don’t be afraid,” says the Lord Jesus, “for I had to give them all up when I walked in the flesh. I died! BUT BEHOLD, I AM ALIVE FOR EVERMORE!” Therein is the power of both death and life! The consuming fire of God will absolutely destroy every vestige of the carnal mind and the flesh life. And then the rainbow of promise establishes within the covenant of divine, heavenly life and reality. Adam dies and Christ arises within us! This is the glory of sonship! We die to the old that we may live in the new! Thus, both death and life are wrought in us by the mighty Christ of God! Oh, the mystery of it!"
Much more in the link:
https://www.godfire.net/eby/rev-89.html
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Ah, sorry about that.
I'm just saying it how I've seen it.
I think a word study on the Greek word would be helpful.
It's not super important to get all the symbolism right away. The Holy Spirit can teach us with the little bit we know.
If you're trying to make the pale horse evil, or illuding to an evil thing, I'd disagree.
We sure don't get it all right away.
The series I read taught it as representing life. Something about plants in the spring.
I guess I'll look it up for you and share it here.
Thanks again.
Fight is a very vague word. Many ways to go about it. What would be your suggestion on how to properly fight in the Lord.
Personally I believe we gotta come together in some deeper way and begin to stand up. Jan 6th put a lot of fear in people(which is understandable) yet we can let that prevent us from rising up. I'm not suggesting violently. Just as one voice, one people, under God, with the rock that is Christ supporting us
Hi brother,
You stand up for Truth at every Opportunity -- examples:
even in communist country, child can tell Science teacher "evolution is another lie"
God created humanity in His Image, incldg. being born Innocent. And when christians Attack you, you refuse to back down as they are Not your god. Truly you show God/Jesus is your Lord.
You share with christians...Matthew18:3, Mark10:14+15, Luke18:16+17 where God/Jesus tells adults "IF you want to live with me in my kingdom, you must Change & Convert... live like a Little child & tho 95+% won't bother, continue teaching Truth anyway...
when aMa hands out death-sentence(s), you refuse all vaxxes, & other cancer Rx's.
Helping others Avoid more cancer-ing, you create & teach Garden+Nutrition classes...
You live God's Abundant life as much as possible, & encourage other patriots to also live same...
etc & so forth... Understand ? - in fact, you met at least 1 Christian who did these & more❤️🌎👍🌿things, &
why? --> to Praise😊 🙏 God
You fight the lie with the truth.
In the Armor of God is the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God.
Truth is built up in us by the Holy Spirit that only speaks truth to us. So the word of God that we fight with is truth, specifically the truth the Holy Spirit has taught us individually. God prepairs us to fight. We follow only Jesus Christ into Battle, and we are the "armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean"
The fight is always present. We learn to stand on truth and speak truth as our Lord does. The sword comes out of His mouth. He slays the Adamic fallen man in us with His word.
Q drop 1240
Ronald Ragan-We Must Fight
From X22 Report Ep. 3095b
https://youtu.be/JDVT-8tUfiE