I used to dismiss https://www.ingersolllockwood.com/ but now I think it could be hugely important.
Used to think "it's all part of the show" was exaggerated and silly, but now I find myself wondering if white hats have their hand in nearly every major news story.
Going the other way...
I'm embarrassed to admit I followed Lin Wood during the first part of 2021. Now certain he's a fraud.
Until late last year I was convinced the military was about to roll in anytime a big story broke. Now I see that sort of thinking as counterproductive hopium that leads only to chronic letdown and fatigue.
If this thread catches on I'll come up with more.
There is periodic spraying of something going on. I would not call it chemtrails because I don't want to use CIA psyop language. The planes are military, appear to be turbofan powered and the spray nozzles appear to be attached to the wings near the engines. They do not appear to be IN the engines. In my area it typically takes 6 airplanes doing a single passes to create a checkerboard sort of pattern. The end result of the spraying appears to be accelerated cloud formation. Unclear if they are doing cloud-seeding or something else.
Whatever is being sprayed starts out very condensed and then it disperses gradually to the point where the original spray path is no longer visible. It appears to take about 2 hours of very slow, fairly high altitude, likely above 30k feet for the planes to complete their mission. These are not commercial flights or at least they are NOT shown as commercial flights on plane trackers. Some of the planes show up as military on ADS-B, but type of aircraft sometimes does not match what I'm seeing. The operations appear to occur during the week, and on crystal clear days the planes are not noticed until late morning after 8am. I rarely see them operating on Sunday.
OK, so 1)why NO photos, 2) how does this answer any of the lar major issues I'm raising, and 3) so it's not commercial jets?
I don’t want to dox myself and telescopic camera is best for useful pics which I don’t have, telescope only at the moment,
Your issues are valid. Addressing the engine thing: it appears the spray is getting sprayed into the high thrust exhaust for maximum velocity dispersion. It does not look like it is going through the engine, and injecting from inside engine would interfere with combustion process and/or reduce thrust by lower temperature delta required for thrust of the last turbine stages,
Planes appear to be military gray livery, likely Air Force. They look like 4x turbofan engine refueling tanker planes to me which are all derived from commercial jet designs.
I am still studying what is going on. I don’t think the planes are the only source of potential contaminants, and I am skeptical it is a constant, continuous thing. It appears to be periodic and geographically targeted. “Chem-trails” is likely not really an accurate description as various things may be getting dispersed and the dispersal mechanism (some sort of fluid) is not necessarily the payload.
Thanks for the reply. You're the only person brave enough to step into this with me. I will only ban low effort, that's it. I don't care if you want to talk chemtrails, just keep it honest. Okay. Check this out.
Did you know that aircraft derivative turbine engines such as the one from the 767 is already in use on the ground to run generators? It's called cogen, and that it's a great way for the oil plants and refineries and remote locations to supplement their electricity needs when the risk of getting cut off from the greatest too great. I have an intimate, intimate understanding of these engines and the issues surrounding them because I created training for how to run them.
Your actually imagining a process that exists in certain use cases for turbines. It's called "mass injection." This technique involves injecting a fluid, often water or a water-alcohol mixture, into the turbine's exhaust stream to decrease the amount of air exhausted and capturing more energy inside the turbine (so that more energy is harvested in the generator the engine is driving).
Two problems. One, this reduces the engine's useful thrust projected towards the rear (to drive the airplane) forward, making it unusable for an airliner or even any kind of aircraft expected to take to the sky. Two, water alcohol tanks are massive. They get the water from local wells or the plant supply, they just have to park the alcohol, but we are still talking about tons and tons and tons. It's just ridiculous thinking this is happening up in the air, especially secretly.
The airlines are incredibly sensitive to weight in their aircraft. The airline that I worked for removed the seat back entertainment units because of the weight. The idea that they really carrying tons and tons of liquid for injection is just ludicrous. I know you're thinking about military, but, this conspiracy doesn't say that. It shows planes in commercial liveries spraying.
Very interesting. Modification of the ambient air environment right at the exit of the engine where the exhaust is trying to expand would certainly change the fluid dynamics. I am not familiar with all the tricks of cogen, but clearly when powergen is the objective rather than thrust, those modifications make sense. Interesting adaptation of a turbofan for powergen, indeed. Unclear if direct drive of generator via turboSHAFT engines (similar to helo engines) is still a significant part of powergen market [this is drive shaft directly driven by last stages of turbine].
This is why I was ruling out commercial aircraft. However, if they wanted to disguise military tankers with commercial livery and fake windows, this is a possibility, I must admit (I have not observed this yet). Tankers already have multiple fuel tanks and carrying an extra tank with something other than fuel or replacing fuel with something else seems like the most practical (and weight conscious) way of doing any sort of spraying (if it is indeed happening).