Tbh you have to become extremely invested in time and effort and consistent to achieve these states. There is a reason monks dedicate their lives to these practices. Of course there will always be those few that are just gifted and can do it with ease but there are people like that in every aspect of life. When I was more consistent in trying astral projection the nearest I got was a very pronounced involuntary shaking of my whole body and I could feel fluid pulsing up my spine and a tingling all over my body, I was never able to get there fully and got a bit discouraged with the journey.