What I have learned by debating Science with Christians, and debating Vaccines with Scientists...

posted 1 year ago by VaccinesCauseSIDS 1 year ago by VaccinesCauseSIDS +38 / -0

Many years ago, I spent several years online debating with Christians in a chat room called "God Is A Myth" which was basically just a bunch of Atheists sitting around, waiting for a Christian to come in the chat room, and then the Atheists would pig-pile on the Christian and basically control the direction of the conversation so they would always "win" the debate.

At the time, i considered myself (an Atheist) to be logical, reasonable, scientific, evidence-based, facts-based, ...

And i considered the opposition (Christians) to be the exact opposite of all that. they were illogical, unreasonable, unscientific, faith-based, feelings-based, ...

And after many hours of debates, with many different Christians, it eventually became clear to me ALL people have within them at least TWO completely different minds, that operate on TWO completely different ways.

The first mind, is like the Atheist mind.

The second mind, is like the Christian mind.

At the time, i considered the Christian mind to be a lower mind, a defective mind, an inferior mind, a mind that needed more education, training, facts, logic, programming...

And yet, even with my supposedly "superior" Atheist mind, i still was not able to "understand" the mind of a Christian, i could not understand how they "think",

And eventually it occurred to me that i didn't even know "what" they thought, because all i was seeing was the superficial answer to a loaded question.

i was seeing the leaves on the trees, but i had no idea what the roots of the trees looked like.

one day i asked myself, "why can't they, think like me"?

and in that moment, i knew i had asked the wrong question.

and that the right question was, "why can't i, think like them?"

What was wrong with me, that i couldn't "think like" these supposedly inferior people?

One area that i noticed, was in morals and ethics.

Another thing i noticed, was that these Christians didn't necessarily feel the need to be "right" in the debate,

And they would readily admit when they didn't know something, or that they didn't fully understand something.

They seemed to be rather humble, and pleasant, and hard to get a reaction out of.

You could insult Jesus Christ right to their faces, and they would shrug it off.

You could tell them their faith in God, was by definition a belief without evidence, and they would simply agree with you.

Fast Forward 20 years, and i find myself debating Vaccines with "Scientists", who are presumably Atheists.

To my surprise, many of the same arguments that i saw deployed by Atheists against Christians, have now been re-purposed and deployed by Anti-vaxxers against Pro-vaxxers.

So now, the anti-vaxxers are the atheists. (show me the evidence that viruses even exist!)

And the pro-vaxxers are the religious zealots (just trust the science bro!)

And i can say, that after debating science with Christians, and debating vaccines with Atheists,

That the Christians are far more humble, reasonable, patient, logical, scientific, peaceful, thoughtful...

OPEN MINDED...

Atheists think that they do not believe in God,

Yet every Atheist has the capacity to believe in God.

And this capacity to believe in God, is like a vacuum, and will be occupied by something,

And in the case of the Atheist, this capacity to believe in God is occupied by "science" in general, and vaccines in particular.

Science is a form of idolatry.

Idolatry is the worship of Idols, or things that are man-made.

Science is a man-made construct, to explain the world.

Science is their God

Vaccines are their Savior

It must be understood that the PRO-VACCINE side is, at its core, a RELIGION.

And that this RELIGION is actually BIGGER than Christianity.

And that this RELIGION is WITCHCRAFT,

and its EVIL,

SATANIC.

And that the only hope we have in defeating this EVIL RELIGION,

Is our Faith in God,

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and Jesus Christ

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and The Scientific Method

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– MissBear 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

In summary I think a lot of this vaccinism, is in part due to the lack of God in society, which has caused it to become one of many replacements for God.

Many of the people who masked up, stayed home, submitted to jabs were/are atheists. Considering many of these same people were/are professing Christians, shows how superficial their faith is. Everything I was reading said that C19 has a better than 99% survival rate. Why should anyone be afraid of that? The only thing that I worried about was finding myself potentially in a hospital intubated, being murdered by Fauci protocols. Or the possibility of being force jabbed. Thank the Lord neither of those happened.

For too many years, we have granted doctors "God-like" powers, and have relied upon toxic pharmaceuticals. Mass fear of death is what allowed the hoax to succeed. Fauci robbed many families of the opportunity to spend time with "Grandma" during her final holidays. My mother's former church showed up on Internet with the billboard saying "no vax, no admittance." That pastor may have been responsible for some vax deaths/injuries.

Speaking of pastors, here's what Franklin Graham said: (SOURCE Wikipedia)

Graham has said in interviews and social media posts that he believes Jesus would approve of the COVID-19 vaccine, saying "that's what Jesus Christ would want us to do, to help save life. It's just a tool to help save life."[13][14][15] He has compared the vaccine to the oil and wine the Good Samaritan used to treat the wounds of the injured traveler, saying "Now the oil and wine were the medicines of that day."[15] He told ABC News, "I think for a pastor to tell someone not to take the vaccine is problematic because what would happen if that person got coronavirus and died?"[13][14]

Graham has also spoken of seeing the effects of the virus in his own organization. "I've had some of my own staff, one of them was on a ventilator for three months, Graham said in an interview with CBS News, "...from what I have seen and experienced myself, I don't want COVID and I don't want anybody else to get it."[15] Graham stated that he and his wife are both vaccinated. He also stated, "I want people to know that COVID-19 can kill you. But we have a vaccine out there that could possibly save your life. And if you wait, it could be too late."[16]

Graham took the vax and got pericarditis, which he reported on twitter.. He had surgery at Mayo to remove his pericardium. Oh but it could have been so much worse without the vax, right?

Clearly, Graham's God is not Jesus Christ. And he may be responsible for some vax deaths/injuries other than his own.

He has compared the vaccine to the oil and wine the Good Samaritan used to treat the wounds of the injured traveler, saying "Now the oil and wine were the medicines of that day."

Graham understands not the parable.

Here is a good interpretation:

Jesus Himself is the Good Samaritan, as proved by His treatment of the robbed and wounded human race. Sin and the devil are the robbers who have despoiled man of his robe of innocence and all supernatural gifts, and grievously wounded him in his natural gifts. Thus man lay, weak, helpless, and half-dead. He still, it is true, possessed his natural life, but he had lost the supernatural life of grace, as well as the prospect of eternal life, and was powerless to raise himself from the misery of sin by any effort of his own. Neither priest nor Levite, i. e. neither sacrifice nor law of the Old Covenant, could help him, or heal his wounds; they only made him realize more fully his helpless condition. Then the Son of God, moved by compassion, came down from heaven to help poor fallen man, living at enmity with God. He healed his wounds with the wine of His Most Precious Blood and the oil of His grace, and took him to the inn, His Church. When He left this earth to return to heaven, He gave to the guardians of His Church the twofold treasure of His doctrine and His grace, and ordered them to tend the still weak man, until He Himself came back to reward every one according to his works.[45]

Source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan

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