yes, agreed - the baseball-sized hole implies that the missile was stationary, and someone made a hole with a hammer or something.
Then there is the issue of Kinzhal being hypersonic. This means moving faster than the speed of sound. Shooting down ANY moving object is problematic, given the speed and trajectory they are going. It is extremely difficult to judge the height of the target, and where it will be when your bullet, or AD missile, will hit it - that is why computer guided missiles were invented. It is otherwise nearly impossible to judge where to aim. The problem with the Patriot was that the computer would then start 'seeing and thinking' that the missiles it had itself fired, were in also targets, which leads to the entire battery being fired in short order.
Sure there are clay pigeon shooters (who also miss often), but a hypersonic missile is not a clay pigeon. One has to judge the speed of the target, AND the speed of ones own bullet, AND the distance the bullet has to travel.
That is not to mention the fact that Kinzhals are guided, so can change course all the time, LOLOL
well, like I said, a lucky shot is always possible, improbable as all hell, but possible, lol.
I was going to ask how much a hypersonic object could really course-correct to dodge, but then I thought about it. you probably wouldn't have to change your angle that much to alter your course significantly at those speeds...A degree or two in any direction would probably move it significantly in a few seconds...
Less than a second to change course, I'd say. I don't know the exact details of it, but I imagine that a Kinzhal will be VERY hard to shoot down, even if one had a computer guided AD. And like I said before, the Patriot had an inherent flaw, in that it would loose the entire battery, as is visible in the video.
Apparently the remedy for this sperging was to not engage the automatic function, but this required a LOT of training - to use a type of human-controlled manual setting. There was no time to give the Ukrainians this type of training. So it was a matter of 'use the Automatic function and let her go'.
I think this whole 'brave soldier shooting down a Kinzhal' falls in the "grandma in high-rise, with a can of pickles takes down loitering munitions" category of story. i.e. BS propaganda.
yes, agreed - the baseball-sized hole implies that the missile was stationary, and someone made a hole with a hammer or something.
Then there is the issue of Kinzhal being hypersonic. This means moving faster than the speed of sound. Shooting down ANY moving object is problematic, given the speed and trajectory they are going. It is extremely difficult to judge the height of the target, and where it will be when your bullet, or AD missile, will hit it - that is why computer guided missiles were invented. It is otherwise nearly impossible to judge where to aim. The problem with the Patriot was that the computer would then start 'seeing and thinking' that the missiles it had itself fired, were in also targets, which leads to the entire battery being fired in short order.
Sure there are clay pigeon shooters (who also miss often), but a hypersonic missile is not a clay pigeon. One has to judge the speed of the target, AND the speed of ones own bullet, AND the distance the bullet has to travel.
That is not to mention the fact that Kinzhals are guided, so can change course all the time, LOLOL
well, like I said, a lucky shot is always possible, improbable as all hell, but possible, lol.
I was going to ask how much a hypersonic object could really course-correct to dodge, but then I thought about it. you probably wouldn't have to change your angle that much to alter your course significantly at those speeds...A degree or two in any direction would probably move it significantly in a few seconds...
Less than a second to change course, I'd say. I don't know the exact details of it, but I imagine that a Kinzhal will be VERY hard to shoot down, even if one had a computer guided AD. And like I said before, the Patriot had an inherent flaw, in that it would loose the entire battery, as is visible in the video.
Apparently the remedy for this sperging was to not engage the automatic function, but this required a LOT of training - to use a type of human-controlled manual setting. There was no time to give the Ukrainians this type of training. So it was a matter of 'use the Automatic function and let her go'.
I think this whole 'brave soldier shooting down a Kinzhal' falls in the "grandma in high-rise, with a can of pickles takes down loitering munitions" category of story. i.e. BS propaganda.
agreed. I'm just trying to be fair and consider all possibilities, lol.
Like I said, I'm nowhere near an expert. =)
me neither. just reading open source materials. LOL at our arm-chairs.