I think you are relying more on myth than history. The Puritans settled in Plymouth colony and their first year was dire privation under a system of socialism. They changed their ways, adopted "free market" principles, and were rewarded by a bounteous harvest, which prompted the first Thanksgiving celebration. They struggled. Those that came later had the advantage of the start that the original settlers made.
As for Spartans, they also tested the wholeness of their infants by exposing them to the elements. And generally, they followed a life that no one else wanted to follow, not then nor now. Suicide in battle is a desperation that can end two ways. It did not end well for the Nazi SS or the Imperial Japanese kamikazi pilots in World War II.
The "period of Christianity" is vague. How is it to be compared to the period of the Inquisition, fanatics all?
You are appropriating a world of non-fanatics simply because they achieved "lofty goals." You are omitting a much larger world of actual fanatics that achieve heinous goals. What kind of "extreme goal" are you thinking of that would merit fanaticism? And what do you mean by it? I think you are running off at the wit, without thinking through what you are saying.
You would literally be put to death for saying "God Damnit" in a Puritan town. I think you need to re-read your history.
Their only reason for going to America was because nowhere in Europe was "Christian enough" so they wanted to establish their own doctrine of Christianity as they saw it. They were as religiously fanatic as you could get at that time.
“You are attacking a people who tamed the wilderness of the New World. Who often, would hold sermons under the sun and be armed to the teeth. A people who so dominated the New World, their leftists descendants must disavow their very existence.”
As for being a Spartan in a society built on the strongest of the strong, yeah I'd like to follow that society. They stretched excellence to the limit. They conquered and were instrumental in Western Civilization as it is today. Those 300 Spartans that sacrificed themselves are still talked about today while you will be forgotten next week if you died tomorrow. You are unimportant and contribute nothing in the grand scheme because you are just not that excellent, committed, and fanatic.
It must suck to live in your world, everything must be diluted and tasteless like you. You wouldn't be able to live with the fact that you are so low in the history of your ancestors. They were much smarter and better than you are.
All you have established is that groups that are sufficiently fanatic (sharing a common psychosis) can perform exertions---and go totally over the line. They prospered only because their earlier generations performed the struggle upon which they were able to build. They never moved much out of New England.
Good for the 300 Spartans. Sparta's only claim to fame. No art or music or literature left behind for posterity. Right along with the Nazi SS and the Japanese Army. You have a remarkable short-sightedness of human culture.
No, actually I think it must suck to live in your world---which is this world---because you find in it nothing that rings your bell. And you build yourself a great personal mythos to rise above it all. I wonder how old you are...
I think you are relying more on myth than history. The Puritans settled in Plymouth colony and their first year was dire privation under a system of socialism. They changed their ways, adopted "free market" principles, and were rewarded by a bounteous harvest, which prompted the first Thanksgiving celebration. They struggled. Those that came later had the advantage of the start that the original settlers made.
As for Spartans, they also tested the wholeness of their infants by exposing them to the elements. And generally, they followed a life that no one else wanted to follow, not then nor now. Suicide in battle is a desperation that can end two ways. It did not end well for the Nazi SS or the Imperial Japanese kamikazi pilots in World War II.
The "period of Christianity" is vague. How is it to be compared to the period of the Inquisition, fanatics all?
You are appropriating a world of non-fanatics simply because they achieved "lofty goals." You are omitting a much larger world of actual fanatics that achieve heinous goals. What kind of "extreme goal" are you thinking of that would merit fanaticism? And what do you mean by it? I think you are running off at the wit, without thinking through what you are saying.
You would literally be put to death for saying "God Damnit" in a Puritan town. I think you need to re-read your history.
Their only reason for going to America was because nowhere in Europe was "Christian enough" so they wanted to establish their own doctrine of Christianity as they saw it. They were as religiously fanatic as you could get at that time.
As for being a Spartan in a society built on the strongest of the strong, yeah I'd like to follow that society. They stretched excellence to the limit. They conquered and were instrumental in Western Civilization as it is today. Those 300 Spartans that sacrificed themselves are still talked about today while you will be forgotten next week if you died tomorrow. You are unimportant and contribute nothing in the grand scheme because you are just not that excellent, committed, and fanatic.
It must suck to live in your world, everything must be diluted and tasteless like you. You wouldn't be able to live with the fact that you are so low in the history of your ancestors. They were much smarter and better than you are.
All you have established is that groups that are sufficiently fanatic (sharing a common psychosis) can perform exertions---and go totally over the line. They prospered only because their earlier generations performed the struggle upon which they were able to build. They never moved much out of New England.
Good for the 300 Spartans. Sparta's only claim to fame. No art or music or literature left behind for posterity. Right along with the Nazi SS and the Japanese Army. You have a remarkable short-sightedness of human culture.
No, actually I think it must suck to live in your world---which is this world---because you find in it nothing that rings your bell. And you build yourself a great personal mythos to rise above it all. I wonder how old you are...
Here's a sculpture made by Spartans in the 5th century BC dumbshit.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e1/b4/36/e1b4360af68904b120ef34408c362fd0--leonidas-sparta-sparta-greece.jpg
Now slave away, suffer, and die leaving behind nothing worth remembering.
Others will live beyond themselves but not you. You will never move humanity forward. Just decay.