I read online a mom saying both her kids changed and turned autistic after the 18 month shots. She then realized what happened. Its so sad, they basically took her kids and exchanged them for different kids.
right I'm going to chime in and say this. I'm a certified autist, assburger to be precise. I wasn't diagnosed until later in life and only after my own awakening. I can say from my experience with my own particular tism, It's absolute a thing. It's extremely debilitating socially, can lead to crippling anxiety. Self consciousness to the extreme
There is a massive misconception that people like me have no empathy, it's absolute not true, though my empathy is 'different'. I can be extremely selfish at times and seem un-caring, especially when I'm overwhelmed. But I know that I do care, and care deeply, and I can show that I care.
People do not know that I am autistic from speaking to me, though many recognise i'm a bit 'odd'. I don't mention the subject because they immediately assume 'OHHH... You're one of those....' They assume I'm retarded.
I do feel that ASD have been over diagnosed as a catch all for bad parenting and other issues, as things have been in the past. Personally, I was well behaved in school, I cruised through and was a model student, in general.
I don't feel my condition, or as I like to put it, the way I am, was caused by vaccines. I don't use it as a crutch or an excuse, but there are very real limitations and challenges I have that can be absolutely crippling. On the bright side, I'm an absolute bona fide autist when it comes to politics, conspiracy and many subjects and talents. I also don't rule out the link between vaccines and autism. Just be aware, there are autistic people with feelings, that aren't retarded. They may also not all be autistic due to vaccinations.
Acting like it has major upsides to a downside... Generally though there is very rare savant syndrome
I'm sorry but that is wrong. I'm not a genius but I have a decently high IQ. I'm not a musical prodigy but I am basically world class in what I've chosen to master. I've competed at an elite level in lawn bowls. I'm certainly not a servant in any sense, but you're wrong in assuming that generally autism = all downside. There are many downsides, but my ability to focus and raw intellect allow me to spend thousands of hours mastering something that regular folk don't' have the time, patience or passion for. That being said, not all autistic people or aspies have special talents, either. The point is, don't assume things about subjects you don't have a great understanding of
I wouldn't want to change the way I am, for anything in the world.
Are you, and most of all, your spouse, happily married?
I see allot of the "I" message in your post.
I was married 20yrs and my husband was Clinically diagnosed having Aspergers with OCD.
We went to 5 marriage counselors ( he didn't like what they were saying so we kept going to a different one) and refused to take any meds for it because he didn't like the way he felt and not to mention alcohol played into the problem.
Don't get me wrong, I have my issues but the bottom line is lack of empathy.
His lack of empathy, patience or desire to understand was why the marriage is not working. It was all my fault.
Brilliant man, high IQ (160) with NASA but dumb in the common sense area.
So the problem with this disorder is, ego. His ego would not " lower" himself to " my insignificant level".
So I wished him well on his high horse and left.
Years later I ran into him and he
Immediately hugged me and apologize for his behavior and said he quit drinking, well good for him for waking up.
my partner and I have been together 10 years, we can't afford to get married. I'd say we have a great relationship, for the most part. I can be very selfish but she is very understanding and we raise each other up in ways we couldn't do alone. We've had no major issues that I can think of in terms of happiness in the relationship. I wish she would look after her health better, but she's never made one demand of me to do much of anything differently. Sometimes I wish she would in order to motivate me, but it is what it is, since you asked...
So the problem with this disorder is, ego. His ego would not " lower" himself to " my insignificant level"
I actually agree, at least I understand the point you are making, and I'm sorry you had that experience. I would like to assume that is not my partners experience nor everyone's experience. I do feel superior at times and it is a problem, but I also have the ability to self reflect, apologise and modify my actions. I can be very humble. It's never been a problem for us, as far as I can tell.
I see allot of the "I" message in your post.
I'm sorry, but I don't know how else I'm supposed to communicate really, I'm giving my personal experience and opinion only, so yes its a lot about "me' and 'I'.
I'm a bit hurt, actually come to think of it, in the way you have addressed me. I don't know your situation or how bad things might have been or what eventually caused you to separate. I'm not going to ask and It's not my business, frankly. neither was it yours to enquire about my spouse. I'm sorry things didn't work out for you. Since we're sticking noses in each others business, might I suggest it may also have been a 'you' problem.
I mean what are you really suggesting? That my partner deserves better than what I can give her? That I don't deserve love or can't be in a mutually committed relationship because of my 'ego disorder'? How do you think that makes a person feel? Don't you think I have thoughts like this all the time and feel like an unworthy piece of garbage? She always reassures me that everything is fine and it's not like that at all. Maybe she's not as high maintenance as you were, maybe her needs are less? Does that make her less than you? Maybe it's just a miracle and we love each other somehow? Maybe I'm not actually a monster? You assumed so much about someone else's relationship based on your own personal experience, likely without considering any of these possibilities. Who has the lack of empathy again?
Would my potential, and yours too, maybe have been even higher and better without it? Possibly.
Would anyone's protentional have been higher had they born into the more privileged circumstance, no doubt. My potential would have been better and life a lot easier if my father hadn't have died when I was 8. My potential would have been higher if had been able to milk the system more in favour during school years and wasn't left to make my own journey of self realisation and initial self diagnosis years after dropping out of university. So many variables. You can come up with an endless list of things that would have improved your life's potential. It's depressing and unhelpful to ask about, I believe.
And besides, who cares? It takes all sorts. Not everyone can be a normie, not everyone can be mega successful. We cannot all be the same, high potential uber humans.
I do see your point though. Most of the 'obviously' autistic people I have met, a small hand full, are in a state that seems utterly tragic and crippling to me, certainly not romantic.
In all honesty, I feel differently about Aspergers as apposed to 'other' forms of autism. Psychologist may disagree, with the changes to the DSM, but I feel pretty distinct from our more 'autistic' brethren. I WISH they had never removed the distinction. For the sake of argument, imagine that a distinction exists. That is the issue here when we're talking about perception of autism, and that is what people are mostly referring to when they think of autism and the other points made about the subject and it's modern prevalence. The more classically 'autistic' autism.
I just wish we could separate the 2 things rather then lump them together, but similarly to what I said before I suppose, If wishes were horses, beggars would ride
The extreme form of autism (nonverbal, tantrums, etc.) we see all over the place today simply didn't exist in the past or was unbelievably rare.
I read online a mom saying both her kids changed and turned autistic after the 18 month shots. She then realized what happened. Its so sad, they basically took her kids and exchanged them for different kids.
right I'm going to chime in and say this. I'm a certified autist, assburger to be precise. I wasn't diagnosed until later in life and only after my own awakening. I can say from my experience with my own particular tism, It's absolute a thing. It's extremely debilitating socially, can lead to crippling anxiety. Self consciousness to the extreme
There is a massive misconception that people like me have no empathy, it's absolute not true, though my empathy is 'different'. I can be extremely selfish at times and seem un-caring, especially when I'm overwhelmed. But I know that I do care, and care deeply, and I can show that I care.
People do not know that I am autistic from speaking to me, though many recognise i'm a bit 'odd'. I don't mention the subject because they immediately assume 'OHHH... You're one of those....' They assume I'm retarded.
I do feel that ASD have been over diagnosed as a catch all for bad parenting and other issues, as things have been in the past. Personally, I was well behaved in school, I cruised through and was a model student, in general.
I don't feel my condition, or as I like to put it, the way I am, was caused by vaccines. I don't use it as a crutch or an excuse, but there are very real limitations and challenges I have that can be absolutely crippling. On the bright side, I'm an absolute bona fide autist when it comes to politics, conspiracy and many subjects and talents. I also don't rule out the link between vaccines and autism. Just be aware, there are autistic people with feelings, that aren't retarded. They may also not all be autistic due to vaccinations.
I'm sorry but that is wrong. I'm not a genius but I have a decently high IQ. I'm not a musical prodigy but I am basically world class in what I've chosen to master. I've competed at an elite level in lawn bowls. I'm certainly not a servant in any sense, but you're wrong in assuming that generally autism = all downside. There are many downsides, but my ability to focus and raw intellect allow me to spend thousands of hours mastering something that regular folk don't' have the time, patience or passion for. That being said, not all autistic people or aspies have special talents, either. The point is, don't assume things about subjects you don't have a great understanding of
I wouldn't want to change the way I am, for anything in the world.
Are you, and most of all, your spouse, happily married? I see allot of the "I" message in your post.
I was married 20yrs and my husband was Clinically diagnosed having Aspergers with OCD. We went to 5 marriage counselors ( he didn't like what they were saying so we kept going to a different one) and refused to take any meds for it because he didn't like the way he felt and not to mention alcohol played into the problem.
Don't get me wrong, I have my issues but the bottom line is lack of empathy.
His lack of empathy, patience or desire to understand was why the marriage is not working. It was all my fault.
Brilliant man, high IQ (160) with NASA but dumb in the common sense area. So the problem with this disorder is, ego. His ego would not " lower" himself to " my insignificant level". So I wished him well on his high horse and left. Years later I ran into him and he Immediately hugged me and apologize for his behavior and said he quit drinking, well good for him for waking up.
my partner and I have been together 10 years, we can't afford to get married. I'd say we have a great relationship, for the most part. I can be very selfish but she is very understanding and we raise each other up in ways we couldn't do alone. We've had no major issues that I can think of in terms of happiness in the relationship. I wish she would look after her health better, but she's never made one demand of me to do much of anything differently. Sometimes I wish she would in order to motivate me, but it is what it is, since you asked...
I actually agree, at least I understand the point you are making, and I'm sorry you had that experience. I would like to assume that is not my partners experience nor everyone's experience. I do feel superior at times and it is a problem, but I also have the ability to self reflect, apologise and modify my actions. I can be very humble. It's never been a problem for us, as far as I can tell.
I'm sorry, but I don't know how else I'm supposed to communicate really, I'm giving my personal experience and opinion only, so yes its a lot about "me' and 'I'.
I'm a bit hurt, actually come to think of it, in the way you have addressed me. I don't know your situation or how bad things might have been or what eventually caused you to separate. I'm not going to ask and It's not my business, frankly. neither was it yours to enquire about my spouse. I'm sorry things didn't work out for you. Since we're sticking noses in each others business, might I suggest it may also have been a 'you' problem.
I mean what are you really suggesting? That my partner deserves better than what I can give her? That I don't deserve love or can't be in a mutually committed relationship because of my 'ego disorder'? How do you think that makes a person feel? Don't you think I have thoughts like this all the time and feel like an unworthy piece of garbage? She always reassures me that everything is fine and it's not like that at all. Maybe she's not as high maintenance as you were, maybe her needs are less? Does that make her less than you? Maybe it's just a miracle and we love each other somehow? Maybe I'm not actually a monster? You assumed so much about someone else's relationship based on your own personal experience, likely without considering any of these possibilities. Who has the lack of empathy again?
Uhhh.. I'm just putting my two cents in on my experience with someone who has Aspergers with OCD. That's all friend.
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Would anyone's protentional have been higher had they born into the more privileged circumstance, no doubt. My potential would have been better and life a lot easier if my father hadn't have died when I was 8. My potential would have been higher if had been able to milk the system more in favour during school years and wasn't left to make my own journey of self realisation and initial self diagnosis years after dropping out of university. So many variables. You can come up with an endless list of things that would have improved your life's potential. It's depressing and unhelpful to ask about, I believe.
And besides, who cares? It takes all sorts. Not everyone can be a normie, not everyone can be mega successful. We cannot all be the same, high potential uber humans.
I do see your point though. Most of the 'obviously' autistic people I have met, a small hand full, are in a state that seems utterly tragic and crippling to me, certainly not romantic.
In all honesty, I feel differently about Aspergers as apposed to 'other' forms of autism. Psychologist may disagree, with the changes to the DSM, but I feel pretty distinct from our more 'autistic' brethren. I WISH they had never removed the distinction. For the sake of argument, imagine that a distinction exists. That is the issue here when we're talking about perception of autism, and that is what people are mostly referring to when they think of autism and the other points made about the subject and it's modern prevalence. The more classically 'autistic' autism.
I just wish we could separate the 2 things rather then lump them together, but similarly to what I said before I suppose, If wishes were horses, beggars would ride