Its about keeping government out of religion dear. Think about why people left England and came here. Because government was insinuating itself into religion.
I believe it's both ways. But again religion not God. My point of this post is any time prayer or bibles in school are brought up, half the comments are "muh, church and state" sigh! Trying to use this post to hopefully educate!
The issue with prayer/Bible in schools is when public school employees, who are employed by the government, attempt to instruct students in religious issues (that are not part of school curriculum). Such as reading Bible verses over the intercom or leading students in prayer. This is because the government is not supposed to show preference for one religion over any other.
But students are allowed to read the Bible during their free time and are allowed student-led prayer, such as "See You At the Pole" and have student led religious clubs.
Christianity has long been the most prevalent religion in America, so in the past there wasn't really any major pushback when schools would violate the Establishment Clause and have school employees lead students in prayer. But religion in general has been on a steady decline in the US, and other religions are becoming more common. So Christianity no longer has the advantage it used to.
But I've always believed that religion should be left to home and church. Even ignoring the teachings of other religions, Christianity itself has such diverse dominations/beliefs that it's simply not a good idea to let school employees teach your children religion. I'm sure there are many Baptist parents who would be pissed off if a Catholic teacher told their children they should pray the rosary. Or a teacher who believes in predestination telling kids free will doesn't exist.
Agreed they should not teach it unless it's Catholic or another religion based school. However, Christian prayer and reading the bible are not allowed in some schools. But Muslims can pray...... This is an attack on Christianity IMHO
Which schools do not allow students to pray or read the Bible during their free time? Can you name them?
I follow this type of thing closely. Sometimes a teacher or other school employee misunderstands the Establishment Clause and will mistakenly stop students from reading the Bible or praying during their free time. Whenever it is brought to the attention of the school administration, the teacher will usually be informed of the law, the family involved will get an apology, and that is the end of it.
But if you know of a school that routinely denies students their First Amendment rights regarding reading the Bible or praying during their free time, please let me know. There are several groups that I know of that can help them.
Some topics are very triggering. Often times, those are the topics most worth discussing.
However, I try to remember Qs warning "Timing is EVERYTHING". From my own experience, this is true.
A sense of timing and an understanding of persuasion basics are very useful. And so is having tough enough skin to endure the inevitable triggered reactions; reactions that I now view as both necessary and positive.
Its about keeping government out of religion dear. Think about why people left England and came here. Because government was insinuating itself into religion.
I believe it's both ways. But again religion not God. My point of this post is any time prayer or bibles in school are brought up, half the comments are "muh, church and state" sigh! Trying to use this post to hopefully educate!
The issue with prayer/Bible in schools is when public school employees, who are employed by the government, attempt to instruct students in religious issues (that are not part of school curriculum). Such as reading Bible verses over the intercom or leading students in prayer. This is because the government is not supposed to show preference for one religion over any other.
But students are allowed to read the Bible during their free time and are allowed student-led prayer, such as "See You At the Pole" and have student led religious clubs.
Christianity has long been the most prevalent religion in America, so in the past there wasn't really any major pushback when schools would violate the Establishment Clause and have school employees lead students in prayer. But religion in general has been on a steady decline in the US, and other religions are becoming more common. So Christianity no longer has the advantage it used to.
But I've always believed that religion should be left to home and church. Even ignoring the teachings of other religions, Christianity itself has such diverse dominations/beliefs that it's simply not a good idea to let school employees teach your children religion. I'm sure there are many Baptist parents who would be pissed off if a Catholic teacher told their children they should pray the rosary. Or a teacher who believes in predestination telling kids free will doesn't exist.
Agreed they should not teach it unless it's Catholic or another religion based school. However, Christian prayer and reading the bible are not allowed in some schools. But Muslims can pray...... This is an attack on Christianity IMHO
Which schools do not allow students to pray or read the Bible during their free time? Can you name them?
I follow this type of thing closely. Sometimes a teacher or other school employee misunderstands the Establishment Clause and will mistakenly stop students from reading the Bible or praying during their free time. Whenever it is brought to the attention of the school administration, the teacher will usually be informed of the law, the family involved will get an apology, and that is the end of it.
But if you know of a school that routinely denies students their First Amendment rights regarding reading the Bible or praying during their free time, please let me know. There are several groups that I know of that can help them.
Some topics are very triggering. Often times, those are the topics most worth discussing.
However, I try to remember Qs warning "Timing is EVERYTHING". From my own experience, this is true.
A sense of timing and an understanding of persuasion basics are very useful. And so is having tough enough skin to endure the inevitable triggered reactions; reactions that I now view as both necessary and positive.