Oh, I agree with everything you just said. I’m not painting of wide brush, stroke. I’m just saying.
Also, I don’t find the book of revelation to be dark at all. We’ve been going through it with a fine tooth comb, and to be perfectly honest… I love studying this book. There is a lot to learn, and there’s a lot of mystery still there. But it’s been really interesting and the woman who’s doing the study really loves the Lord and is a great teacher and leader.
I am from the school of pre-TRIB. So I do not fear of the book of revelation, it literally states that if you study that book you will be blessed! So knowing that I will not be here during that time, makes it a much more enjoyable study.
But yes, I do feel bad for people who will be left behind, because they’re going to have a hard life for seven years. One of my plans is to get a Bible for my daughter, and leave her instructions in the event she is left behind. She was raised a Christian, and hopefully she will come back to the Lord. I don’t know if she truly ever accepted him because she completely denies Christ now. But I will be leaving a letter for her in a Bible, so she’ll know what to do when the time comes.
In the meantime, I’m praying for her salvation, so she doesn’t have to go through that horrific time.
Thank you for the encouragement and admonishment! Yes, I know there are a lot more other requirements for the antichrist, but I just find it interesting that Israel is crying, peace, peace, and the antichrist is supposed to bring peace to this world. But yes, they will deny Christ and Donald Trump does has not done that. Yet!
Have u ever looked Into the other camps (interestingly they all have scripture to support) or the cons of pre trib just curious
Shouldbt we seek to walk with Christ in such a way that we could endure the tribulation or anything thrown at us. Rather then just say oh we won't have to. Remember it's called the "Revelation of Jesus Christ" told to John in the spirit.
Just providing some counter thoughts hope they aren't taken negatively. Oh and I love that u wanna leave her a note.
Does it really matter what I think? No! God’s going to do with God’s going to do. Whether I’m taken in the clouds, or left here to suffer for another seven years, it really doesn’t matter what I think.
This is the way I look at it…
We are the bride of Christ! I know Christ is a gentleman, and I can’t imagine him, wanting to beat up his bride - before she gets there.
Those last seven years on earth are going to be horrific, and I can’t imagine Christ putting his church, his believers, through such horrific times. Also… If the Holy Spirit is removed at that time, then how can we be here. The Holy Spirit lives in us.
I find it fascinating that people would want to stay here and suffer longer, like we haven’t had enough suffering already. It’s almost as if we are used to the abuse now, and now people think that we deserve it and should stay longer for that last seven years so we could be as miserable as possible.
We don’t need to suffer to earn salvation. Works are great, and they are a fruit of our salvation, however, on the cross, he did say it is finished. I rest in that daily.
You know me, I’m not an optimist. But on this one thing, I’m standing my ground.
But really, it doesn’t matter what we think. God’s gonna do what he’s gonna do. Just like today and always.
NO ONE CAN STOP WHAT IS COMING.
This is a biblical reference, though, because it doesn’t matter what I think. It matters what his word says.
Two places. 2 Thess 2: 6-12. And Rev 3:10 Jesus Himself promises us that we will not have to go through the time (hour) of testing.
There’s more, but I’m sure you have other scriptures to refute mine. And then we could argue about it, and it wouldn’t matter what we think anyway.
And no, I’m not bothered that you are questioning my theology. This has been an age old question for centuries. Even the greatest theologians argue about this. You get to think what you wanna think, and I’ll think what I think, and in the end… It doesn’t matter. God’s gonna do with God’s gonna do.
🤣😂🤣😂👏👏👏
Romans 12:2
“Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
“He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son.” (Colossians 1:13)
“Set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.” (1 Peter 1:13)
“But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.” (Philippians 3:20-21)
Not gonna dispute anything you said just sharing some verse that I keep close to heart. It's important everyone keep seeking and come to truth on there own
All throughout the bible God poured out his wrath while also keeping his people safe. 😁
Got any verses on God keeping His bride safe during the Tribulation? I don’t mean the people who later believe and repent and are saved… I mean the church now. If there is mention of the church and instructions to the church from Revelation 4 and until she descends with Christ after chapter 19, please share it to those who are suffering and wondering why they’re being judged.
Got any Bible verses that show the judgment of the hour of testing is not the whole world?
We will never ever know the complete truth of the Bible. It’s just a fact. Theologians have been debating for years and years and years and years and years.
When we stand before, the lord, then we will know. I’m OK with that. I don’t need all the answers. I can barely manage the answers. I have right now. Lol!
It’s really their last chance to decide. And there will be money that will not. They will still scoff at the name of the Lord. Their hearts will be so hardened - but there will be some tribulation saints.
Oh, I agree with everything you just said. I’m not painting of wide brush, stroke. I’m just saying.
Also, I don’t find the book of revelation to be dark at all. We’ve been going through it with a fine tooth comb, and to be perfectly honest… I love studying this book. There is a lot to learn, and there’s a lot of mystery still there. But it’s been really interesting and the woman who’s doing the study really loves the Lord and is a great teacher and leader.
I am from the school of pre-TRIB. So I do not fear of the book of revelation, it literally states that if you study that book you will be blessed! So knowing that I will not be here during that time, makes it a much more enjoyable study.
But yes, I do feel bad for people who will be left behind, because they’re going to have a hard life for seven years. One of my plans is to get a Bible for my daughter, and leave her instructions in the event she is left behind. She was raised a Christian, and hopefully she will come back to the Lord. I don’t know if she truly ever accepted him because she completely denies Christ now. But I will be leaving a letter for her in a Bible, so she’ll know what to do when the time comes.
In the meantime, I’m praying for her salvation, so she doesn’t have to go through that horrific time.
Thank you for the encouragement and admonishment! Yes, I know there are a lot more other requirements for the antichrist, but I just find it interesting that Israel is crying, peace, peace, and the antichrist is supposed to bring peace to this world. But yes, they will deny Christ and Donald Trump does has not done that. Yet!
Have u ever looked Into the other camps (interestingly they all have scripture to support) or the cons of pre trib just curious
Shouldbt we seek to walk with Christ in such a way that we could endure the tribulation or anything thrown at us. Rather then just say oh we won't have to. Remember it's called the "Revelation of Jesus Christ" told to John in the spirit.
Just providing some counter thoughts hope they aren't taken negatively. Oh and I love that u wanna leave her a note.
Does it really matter what I think? No! God’s going to do with God’s going to do. Whether I’m taken in the clouds, or left here to suffer for another seven years, it really doesn’t matter what I think.
This is the way I look at it…
We are the bride of Christ! I know Christ is a gentleman, and I can’t imagine him, wanting to beat up his bride - before she gets there.
Those last seven years on earth are going to be horrific, and I can’t imagine Christ putting his church, his believers, through such horrific times. Also… If the Holy Spirit is removed at that time, then how can we be here. The Holy Spirit lives in us.
I find it fascinating that people would want to stay here and suffer longer, like we haven’t had enough suffering already. It’s almost as if we are used to the abuse now, and now people think that we deserve it and should stay longer for that last seven years so we could be as miserable as possible.
We don’t need to suffer to earn salvation. Works are great, and they are a fruit of our salvation, however, on the cross, he did say it is finished. I rest in that daily.
You know me, I’m not an optimist. But on this one thing, I’m standing my ground.
But really, it doesn’t matter what we think. God’s gonna do what he’s gonna do. Just like today and always.
NO ONE CAN STOP WHAT IS COMING.
This is a biblical reference, though, because it doesn’t matter what I think. It matters what his word says.
Two places. 2 Thess 2: 6-12. And Rev 3:10 Jesus Himself promises us that we will not have to go through the time (hour) of testing.
There’s more, but I’m sure you have other scriptures to refute mine. And then we could argue about it, and it wouldn’t matter what we think anyway.
And no, I’m not bothered that you are questioning my theology. This has been an age old question for centuries. Even the greatest theologians argue about this. You get to think what you wanna think, and I’ll think what I think, and in the end… It doesn’t matter. God’s gonna do with God’s gonna do. 🤣😂🤣😂👏👏👏
Romans 12:2 “Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
“He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son.” (Colossians 1:13)
“Set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.” (1 Peter 1:13)
“But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.” (Philippians 3:20-21)
Not gonna dispute anything you said just sharing some verse that I keep close to heart. It's important everyone keep seeking and come to truth on there own
All throughout the bible God poured out his wrath while also keeping his people safe. 😁
Love you sis
Ps. You and Starseed get along great then don’t you. Lol. I’m happy you have somebody to talk to you about this.
Got any verses on God keeping His bride safe during the Tribulation? I don’t mean the people who later believe and repent and are saved… I mean the church now. If there is mention of the church and instructions to the church from Revelation 4 and until she descends with Christ after chapter 19, please share it to those who are suffering and wondering why they’re being judged.
Got any Bible verses that show the judgment of the hour of testing is not the whole world?
We will never ever know the complete truth of the Bible. It’s just a fact. Theologians have been debating for years and years and years and years and years.
When we stand before, the lord, then we will know. I’m OK with that. I don’t need all the answers. I can barely manage the answers. I have right now. Lol!
You are correct. Covenant theologians and others reject the rapture happening and for the purpose of removing the bride from the hour of testing.
They have the desire to remain in the earth because it is like a refinement in their eyes. But the reality is this:
The judgment was created by God as judgment upon unbelievers. The purpose is to, wait for it: ….Judge unbelievers!
Thank You!
It’s really their last chance to decide. And there will be money that will not. They will still scoff at the name of the Lord. Their hearts will be so hardened - but there will be some tribulation saints.