Has there ever been a clinical trial to test for the prevention of transmission? Think of the logistics, you would either need to isolate groups with only select people getting a treatment OR monitor EVERYONE that someone in the clinical trial comes into contact with. Typically, there is the assumption that if you prevent the initial infection, you then prevent it from being transmitted. Once vaccine failures occurred, that assumption goes out the window.
Checking for transmission was out of scope for the FDA approval because the FDA approved indication was to "to prevent coronavirus disease 2019
(COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)". Absolutely nothing about transmission in the approved indication.
In a sane world officials/pfizer/moderna/hospitals would have been sued for fraud for claiming it prevented transmission or reducing hospitalization.
Because thats the only way they can argue you need to take it to protect others. If its just to protect yourself they lose any sort of emergency argument of forcing you to take it. “We must punish you because you’re harming others”
Exactly. The entire premise of the vaccine mandates is that it's helpful for the whole.
If as u/LessSwampMoreMAGA implies, no vaccines were ever tested as far as preventing transmission (and with hindsight it seems highly plausible that they never were) does not the entirety of the mandate argument collapse as it reduces the decision entirely to personal risk?
That is a very important question. Judging by the lying "safe and effective" mantra maintained by big pharma, and know that it is a lie, does it not make sense to consider that everything we have ever been told about vaccines is a lie?
Has there ever been a clinical trial to test for the prevention of transmission? Think of the logistics, you would either need to isolate groups with only select people getting a treatment OR monitor EVERYONE that someone in the clinical trial comes into contact with. Typically, there is the assumption that if you prevent the initial infection, you then prevent it from being transmitted. Once vaccine failures occurred, that assumption goes out the window.
Checking for transmission was out of scope for the FDA approval because the FDA approved indication was to "to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)". Absolutely nothing about transmission in the approved indication.
In a sane world officials/pfizer/moderna/hospitals would have been sued for fraud for claiming it prevented transmission or reducing hospitalization.
Good point but it raises another question: do any of the vaccines stop transmission?
Why would you care for a virus with lesa than 0.1% infection fatality ratio like covid.
The question is if transmission was never tested why did the CDC claim you wouldnt transmit it after taking it?
Because thats the only way they can argue you need to take it to protect others. If its just to protect yourself they lose any sort of emergency argument of forcing you to take it. “We must punish you because you’re harming others”
Exactly. The entire premise of the vaccine mandates is that it's helpful for the whole.
If as u/LessSwampMoreMAGA implies, no vaccines were ever tested as far as preventing transmission (and with hindsight it seems highly plausible that they never were) does not the entirety of the mandate argument collapse as it reduces the decision entirely to personal risk?
That is a very important question. Judging by the lying "safe and effective" mantra maintained by big pharma, and know that it is a lie, does it not make sense to consider that everything we have ever been told about vaccines is a lie?