Vivek Ramaswamy repeats the leftist lie that homosexuality is ‘hardwired’ from birth
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LOL - As expected, the first words out of your mouth are a poor attempt at mental three card monte. The vast majority of child molestation is committed by straight people? Straight people, by definition, are one adult male with one adult female. If you think your sleight of hand is working, it is only working in people who have already greased their minds to accept any level of absurdity that they can pretend supports what they want to believe.
My assumption is that you are referring to peds who hide their orientation behind heterosexual relationships the same way many homosexuals do? Again another childish attempt at mental gymnastics that only work for those who are eager to accept any morsel that they (and only they) can file away in their mental "this proves it" file, no matter the level of absurdity.
You then move on to ignore that 3 out of 4 child molestations are same sex in nature...umm...doesn't same sex mean homosexual - having nothing whatsoever to do with "straight" people?"
Uhh....maybe the same self evident reason pedophilia orientation keeps showing up - 80& of peds were molested by adults during childhood.
Aren't you the one who expressed your self-immolation at the hand of God, who refused to obey your command for his action, while hearing the prayers of so many others who testify to his transformation of their lives?
If you have any desire to understand, there is an entire book written on that subject. I highly recommend you look at it. It's explanations are clear and to the point. It takes no mental gymnastics to understand why and how everything works.
Oh, you think that straight men don't diddle boys? Have you been paying attention at all to the world around you? Pedophiles are opportunistic. Boys are fucked by straight men with alarming frequency, because a prepubescent boy looks a whole lot more like a girl than he does a man.
Ok, let's test your theory with some more math. ~90% of molestation is committed by people who do not identify as gay, simply because there aren't enough gays to make the numbers work otherwise. You say 75% of child molestations are same sex in nature. So that means that 67.5% (0.9 x 0.75) of the molestations are committed by people who identify as straight, but are in fact fucking boys. Since self-identified gays commit ~10% of the molestation, that means there are 7 times as many pedophiles who claim to be straight (but are actually gay because they fuck boys, according to you) as there are openly gay pedophiles. Since self-identified gays are about 3-5% of the population, and assuming the ratio of pedophiles is the same in both groups, that means that around 28% (4 x 7) of the straight population is secretly gay. Which is ridiculous on its face. Your claims, turned into numbers, start to look pretty damn retarded.
I hope you're getting a sense for the degree to which I cannot take you seriously.
I expressed no "self-immolation," whatever you mean by that. What I said was that it wasn't until I got to the point where I asked God directly, rather than trusting Christian tradition, that he told me to accept myself, find a decent man to commit to, and be a good person. Meanwhile, I was living what would be called a good Christian life, complete with service and celibacy. So stop putting words in my mouth as if it's some kind of own, you self-righteous midwit.
By "there is an entire book written on that subject" I'm assuming from context that you are referring to the Bible? Please, oh please, dare me to explain to you exactly how the Bible says exactly nothing in condemnation of homosexuality when it's understood in context and is translated correctly, instead of through the distorted lens of traditional Christianity. Please!
Or not. I'm kinda getting tired of arguing with an idiot.
Holy shit, your brain is scrambled eggs.
But with all of your issues, I guess it's understandable.
One thing you can be absolutely 100% certain of is that if you asked God what to do about your perverse tendancies, and the answer was, "practice them," IT WAS NOT GOD WHO ANSWERED YOU.
Sorry, I won't dare you to demonstrate your scriptural prowess. I have already heard the childishly absurd arguments twisting the language into a bag of pretzels.
I read the Bible daily, and have done so for decades, including the Blue letter Bible and the Interlinear Bible, along with the original languages and translations.
Without question, except from those with undeniable nefarious intentions, the Bible condemns homosexual behavior. You will find it clearly and in context in both the old testament and new.
It is so clear, so obvious, and in such plain and direct language, and in full context, that it takes DELIBERATE EVIL INTENT to attempt to twist it into something it is not.
Excuse me while i go wash my hands after being required to respond to your childish blubberings.
Sounds like a dare to me! Even if you didn't have the balls to say it! It's good to see, BTW, that you've acknowledged by your silence that most boys who are sexually abused are victims of straight people. Maybe we're getting somewhere!
There are six passages often cited by people like you, let's knock 'em down:
The story of Sodom and Gomorrah - Ezekiel makes clear that the sin of Sodom was cruelty, specifically how they treated the poor. Yet you'll take a single word - "know" - and twist that into homosexuality being the reason for the city's demise. In other words, you make the story mean what you want it to mean, but what you say it means isn't actually in the text and is in fact contradicted elsewhere.
Leviticus 18:21 and 20:13 - These are provisions of the Levitical Law. Christians are not bound by the Levitical Law. It is of no effect. If you take these passages seriously, you had better stop eating pork and shellfish too.
That leaves three passages in the New Testament, all found in the Epistles of Paul. Interestingly, in 2 Corinthians, Paul clarifies that every word of God shall be established by two or three witnesses. Yet he's the only NT author that says anything at all about homosexuality. Where are the other witnesses? Where is Jesus weaving that tHe GheYs ArE bAd into the Sermon on the Mount if it matters so much to him? Anyhow, if you're taking Paul seriously then you better make sure your woman doesn't speak up in church.
Anyway, we have:
Romans 1:21-31 - When read in context, Paul is not condemning homosexuality. He's condemning Paganism and the accompanying debauchery.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 - These passages originally used the word "arsenokoitais." This is an interesting word because it doesn't really appear in other Greek literature. It appears to have been period slang. So the translators were free to make it say whatever they wanted. They went with a condemnation of homosexuality. But if you actually break the word into its etymology, it translates literally to "man of many beds." This is not an injunction against homosexuality; it is a condemnation of promiscuity. And if Paul wanted to say what you think he said, he was a Roman citizen writing in Greek. He had plenty of words available if he wanted to be clear about his views on homosexuality.
So, yeah, the Bible does not condemn homosexuality. Adultery, fornication, promiscuity? Sure. But there is no applicable passage regarding homosexuality. It's nothing but Christian dogma based off the presumed opinion of a guy named Paul.
"One thing you can be absolutely 100% certain of is that if you asked God what to do about your perverse tendancies, and the answer was, "practice them," IT WAS NOT GOD WHO ANSWERED YOU." And there it is: your insufferable self-righteousness. Never mind that I am chaste as I look for a good man who will share my commitment. Everybody must see God as you do. Everybody must obey him the same way you do. If not then it's "perverse tendencies" all the way down! Makes me wonder what kind of beam is sticking out of your eye, you hypocrite.
Simply put: God made me gay. I assume my soul agreed to it before being born, but God was in charge of the development of my brain structure. What I do with that is between him and me, but I can tell you God isn't going to condemn ME for something HE did.
Reply or not, I don't care and won't read it. You're ignorant but think you're wise. You're as bad as any NPC I've ever met and I'm over it. Take care.
Obviously, you won't read it. It will contain plain direct truth.
You publicly lie about the Scriptures. You will be publicly corrected by the Scriptures.
And I don't need to twist anything. They will speak for themselves.
LIE #1.
You apparently are referring to Ezek.16. In Chapter 16 God, through Ezekiel, is speaking to Jerusalem, and saying that Jerusalem is more wicked than many of it's surrounding cities, including Sodom. ONE OF Sodom's shortcomings is it's bad treatment of the poor. For more, continue reading:
Abominations and whoredoms? Oh yeah, that seems to refer back to Lev.18 [22]
But I don't want to forget your statement that you are not under Levitical Law.
This is God himself speaking, condemning homosexuality as an abomination. We know that the word "abomination" means a stench in the face of God.
Here is the obvious question that your statement begs: Law or no law, are you contending that the sure way to endear yourself to the Creator is by essentially farting in his face on a regular basis?
I think that ^ surely qualifies as LIE #2
LIE#3
Your attempt to make Sodom and Gomorrah about mistreatment of the poor is also directly contradicted by the story itself:
The men of Sodom surrounded Lot's house and told him to bring them out that they may "know them." No one disagrees at what that means.
Lot immediately responds:
[6] And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, [7] And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
What is the wickedness? The lines before just said what it is. And it isn't saying the wickedness Lot is talking about is mistreatment of the poor.
LIE #4 is most everything you said about Paul and the New Testament.
It's a difficult mish mash to try to untangle, but you apparently are attempting to say that because Paul condemns all forms of fornication, or forbidden sexual behavior, that means he is excluding homosexuality? Well, forbidden sexual behavior is defined in Leviticus of the Old Testament, and it certainly included the "abomination" of homosexuality. Paul further includes the "effeminate" and "abusers of themselves with mankind," and just about every other way to describe the variety of homosexual activity. If you want to deny that, it is clearly covered in "fornication."
LIE #5
That I am a hypocrite for correcting childish lies that are more and more pushing themselves into the mainstream, without any basis in fact.
Lie in public and you must be corrected in public, that others be not deceived.
No one has to believe a word I say. All believers are required to believe what the Scriptures say. As the Apostle Paul tells us, it is given with great plainness of speech. And no one has the authority to change it to fit their desired narrative, or play any game of mental 3-card-monte to deceive others into believing their false narrative.
Don't read this and continue in your delusion. It is your decision to make.