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The Church in Maui that didn’t burn, Maria Lanakila, which is Hawaiian for Our Lady of Victory, was… wait for it… the Latin Mass parish. Our Lady of Victory, pray for us! (www.barnhardt.biz)
posted 2 years ago by XGemInaV 2 years ago by XGemInaV +89 / -0
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– swimkin 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

This is a beautiful miracle. The fact they are the Latin Mass church speaks volumes.

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– Datasinc 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

That it's a solid concrete building with a large grass lawn and cemetery surrounding it speaks more. As opposed to a wooden building that's close to other buildings.

Historic church buildings made of stone / concrete typically survive fires better than modern construction buildings using wood.

Also businesses that are in old converted church buildings also survive.

I'm a Christian (Reformed Baptist) and believe in miracles but I hate that you are glossing over the basic logic to try to associate that it's because it's a Latin Mass church.

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– smartbaum 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Truth. It's the same bad logic of "God in the gaps" whenever something is currently inexplicable due to lack of information, supernatural intervention is the explanation. It's actually magical thinking, another form of superstition, and poor reasoning like this is a traditional breeding ground for the hardened agnosticism and atheism of scientism.

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– swimkin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ah... but it is not the first time a Catholic Church has survived a significant event in history.

Here are just a few other examples:

https://aleteia.org/2019/08/21/the-two-churches-that-survived-the-atomic-bombs-in-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/

And this: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/st-pauls-cathedral-bombed

And this: https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/ruins-cologne

Just so you know those who attend a Church with Latin Mass are more traditional Catholics and so are the priests who who participate in it. The church significantly Reformed the mass in the 1960's at the Second Vatican truly changing the entire church and how it functions. I remember parishoners who tried to fight the change to no avail. And I am not convinced this change was for the better.

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– Datasinc 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Again, this has nothing to do with Catholicism, and everything to do with the building materials and other factors.

Things that are made out of stone tend to survive all sorts of natural disasters and time. That's why we still have the Roman Colosseum, pyramids, and Aztec temples among other examples.

Older church buildings often possess a combination of architectural features and construction methods that contribute to their increased resilience in the face of disasters like fires and earthquakes. Here are a few reasons why they tend to survive:

  1. Solid Construction Materials: Many older churches were built using durable and solid materials like stone, brick, and thick timber beams. These materials can withstand the impact of fires and earthquakes better than modern construction materials.

  2. Robust Structural Design: Older churches often have well-thought-out structural designs with thick walls, arches, and vaults that distribute the load evenly. This kind of construction helps absorb the forces exerted during an earthquake or other disasters.

  3. Skilled Craftsmanship: Older churches were constructed by skilled artisans and craftsmen who paid meticulous attention to detail. This craftsmanship often results in a stronger and more resilient building.

  4. Less Vulnerability to Modern Hazards: Older churches were built before the advent of modern hazards like electrical systems, complex heating/cooling systems, and synthetic materials. These modern elements can contribute to the spread of fires and damage during disasters.

  5. Minimal Use of Flammable Materials: Traditional building methods relied on materials that were less prone to catching fire, such as thick stone walls and heavy timber. This can slow down the progression of fires.

  6. Cultural and Historical Significance: Many older churches are considered cultural and historical landmarks, which often leads to meticulous preservation efforts. This attention to detail can result in better disaster preparation and response.

  7. Restoration and Retrofitting: Over time, older churches may have undergone restoration and retrofitting to strengthen their structural integrity and enhance their ability to withstand disasters.

  8. Less Height and Mass: Many older churches are not as tall or massive as modern skyscrapers, which can make them more stable during earthquakes.

It's important to note that while older churches may have these advantages, they are not immune to all types of disasters. Preservation efforts, maintenance, and ongoing assessments are crucial to ensuring their continued survival and safety in the face of various challenges.

Survival of the building has nothing to do with what type of mass that is performed inside. The showers at the Holocaust are still standing. What type of mass is done there?

There are many examples of Catholic churches doing Latin Mass that were destroyed completely throughout history all across the globe.

Correlation is not causation.

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– IloveDJT202012 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Our blessed Mother always protecting

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– lukelog925 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Been to that church for mass, its a very nice parish.

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– 20-guage 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Here's a link to donate money to them. I've been trying to donate for days, but only just now got through. I think they've must be swamped.

https://www.marialanakila.org

Donate via Square

https://marialanakilachurch-100200-100066.square.site/

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

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