This is the thing I don't understand about Lyme disease...or any insect-borne disease for that matter. Ticks (or insects) are born sterile. The theory is that they are exposed to the pathogen by feeding on an infected animal, and then pass that infection onto the next host they bite...i.e., they bite something, fall off (or fly away) and find another host. But ticks and insects don't feed that way. Actually, a very tiny percentage of these parasites ever find a host (most die before feeding), and when they do find a host, they feed enough in that single event to provide the energy to produce eggs. They die soon after.
In order for a disease such as described to multiply and remain a threat, you'd have to have most of the population of ticks or insects feeding on multiple infected animals. It just doesn't happen this way.
So, what does that imply? Perhaps that these diseases are actually a symptom of something else they're not telling us about?
There is a crap-ton of question and confusion surrounding this.
What I know, CDC and IDSA should not be trusted - Tuskegee experiment and COVID should have taught us this. They are incestuous in their "research". See history and the documentary " Under Our Skin".
Many of the scientists involved were Japanese and German WWII. Klaus Traub was operation paperclip. (Bitten, Newby) He hired W. Burgdorferi whose job it was to infect ticks for the U.S.
The Japanese scientists were doing this in WWII. This is covered in the documentary "Under the Eightball".
The question about effectiveness is interesting. These scientists were doing it in WWII and then continued well after (Bitten, Newby). The American government dropped/released boxes of infected ticks from a plane flying over the sugar plantations in Cuba to weaken workers. BUT they (ticks) were already infected!!
Lyme can take on many forms depending where it colonizes in the body. (MN Lyme Association). We have mostly heard about how it colonized so that it mimics rheumatoid arthritis. BUT, it can colonize so that the person gets heart, digestive, or CNS issues among others. (Was actually told by a non-medical family member I did not have lyme because I did not have RA symptoms- this was after a positive test result!!). Clinical diagnosis pointed to my CNS.
The Lyme test will only show positive for antibodies. Where it is colonizing is clinical diagnosis only which depends on symptoms being manifested. No advancement in testing has been done in over 40+ years. My understanding is that the blood test is less effective that the covid PCR (eyeroll) and there are over 50% false negatives. Raises a question for me as to why this poor performance is allowed.
CDC allows multiple refills on antibiotics for acne and lifelong antibiotic treatment for syphilis, but you only get one course of antibiotics for Lyme - supposedly for superbug containment. See "Under Our Skin" and draw your own conclusions.
After the course of antibiotics is complete, Lymies need to seek further treatment through Lyme literate doctors and clinics. It can be a bit of the wild west in this landscape.
Interesting note - My Lyme CNS symptoms resemble covid vaxx symptoms of brain fog, rage, panic attacks, cognitive difficulties, etc. NOT clot however.
Is the transmission narrative about deer and other infected animals just b.s.? IDK. It would not surprise me. It would explain how the infected ticks got all over the US instead of staying localized near Plum Island. Especially since we know the government attacked us with the covid/covid vaxx.
Healing Lyme (Buhner) was helpful for supplements. It is a really good resource for being your own doctor. Ivermectin made the difference for me.
I've had Lyme for over 30 years, all of my cartilage has been munched away by the bacteria Borrelia Burgdorfi, it loves carilage, I have none, its in my handss wrists spine ankles knees neck and shoulders. Fighting it all these years, I developed Mast Cell Reactive Syndrome, which is a nightmare in itself. I have an excellent doctor, and in treating the MCAS, much pain and inflammation, with the pain meds, is managed and tolerated. It was developed on Plum Island, they infected the ticks, then infected the deer, thing is, deer swam the short distance to the connecticutt mainland. I was 38 years old when I caught it, it has affected me most of my life. I am 73 now, and it was natural healing, strict diets, the Grace of God, that has kept me surviving. There are no reparations for people like me, but, I managed a rich life of nature and homesteading, had a son and raised him as a single mom. Self piity is not allowed in my home. I have tried to get rid of it, and I think it is suppressed right now, but due to the MCAS, I have to be very careful of herxing, the last one had me in the ER going into anaphylaxis. My current doc said it is too late for antibiotics, the amount I would have to have would kill me. I am still healthier than a lot of women my age, but my peers and friendship circle are all old hippie gals who have been anti vax and natural healing before it was embraced by a lot of folks here. I am talking about the women who live in a chemical world, eat tons of crap, and have taken pharma all their lives, not my peer group. My immediate acreage is tick free thanks to the army of chickens I have kept for these 35 years, and I don't wander off my property too much anymore, like hikes and stuff, because a 1 mile walk does me in, anyway. Lyme disease may or may not be cured, but I know there are a lot of snake oil vendors out there, I know, because i have tried them all.
Yes. Snake oil. This is exactly what I was getting at in one of my posts where I mention that obtaining treatment is like a wild west landscape!
MCAS. I remember a book that talked about a protocol for it for people with sensitivity. It is called Toxic by Dr. Nathan. It deals with mold, Lyme, mcas, etc. It sounds like you have a great doc and something that is working. I only mention it because you might be able to glean a bit from it.
Herxing. That one would always catch me off guard. Always. For what ever reason I would always think that it would react as flu like symptoms. BUT because it had colonized in my CNS, of course I would get brain inflamation, which would in turn manifest itself as servere depression and suicide ideation. Thankfully my husband started to recognize what was happening. CBD oil would help at this point as I would relearn once again.
It sounds like herxing gets life threatening for you. I am sorry.
thank you. Yes, i was following a strict parasite cleanse, after the 8th day, I had terrible gerd in the middle of the night, followed by head to toe hives, my skin was covered, by the time I got to the ER my pulse was almost 190 and my B/P was 74/32, they had to bolus an IV of a st rong antihistamine and steroids, as the histamine was leaving my body, I had seizures. I am scared to eat ketchup now, lol, because any histamine containing foods could trigger a mild reaction or a crisis. I have an excellent doctor, she is focused on auto immune issues and MCAS. Years and years of my immune system fighting the Lyme bacteria caused the MCAS, Luckily, the maintenance is simple, Claritin, Pepcid AC, and Singular, all put the MAST cells at ease. Believe me, I would have tried Ivermectin, but I dare not risk a die off that would cause a herx reaction again. I have an epi pen I hope I never have to use. Adding to this, I also take Quercitin, Liposomal C B and folic acid liquid, NAC, CoQ10, Special Probiotics, Alpha Lipoic Acid, D, Zinc, Fish Oild and Cod Liver Oil, Selenium, Ginger, Magnesium, and Weed, which I grow myself.
This is the thing I don't understand about Lyme disease...or any insect-borne disease for that matter. Ticks (or insects) are born sterile. The theory is that they are exposed to the pathogen by feeding on an infected animal, and then pass that infection onto the next host they bite...i.e., they bite something, fall off (or fly away) and find another host. But ticks and insects don't feed that way. Actually, a very tiny percentage of these parasites ever find a host (most die before feeding), and when they do find a host, they feed enough in that single event to provide the energy to produce eggs. They die soon after.
In order for a disease such as described to multiply and remain a threat, you'd have to have most of the population of ticks or insects feeding on multiple infected animals. It just doesn't happen this way.
So, what does that imply? Perhaps that these diseases are actually a symptom of something else they're not telling us about?
Lymie here.
There is a crap-ton of question and confusion surrounding this.
What I know, CDC and IDSA should not be trusted - Tuskegee experiment and COVID should have taught us this. They are incestuous in their "research". See history and the documentary " Under Our Skin".
Many of the scientists involved were Japanese and German WWII. Klaus Traub was operation paperclip. (Bitten, Newby) He hired W. Burgdorferi whose job it was to infect ticks for the U.S.
The Japanese scientists were doing this in WWII. This is covered in the documentary "Under the Eightball".
The question about effectiveness is interesting. These scientists were doing it in WWII and then continued well after (Bitten, Newby). The American government dropped/released boxes of infected ticks from a plane flying over the sugar plantations in Cuba to weaken workers. BUT they (ticks) were already infected!!
Lyme can take on many forms depending where it colonizes in the body. (MN Lyme Association). We have mostly heard about how it colonized so that it mimics rheumatoid arthritis. BUT, it can colonize so that the person gets heart, digestive, or CNS issues among others. (Was actually told by a non-medical family member I did not have lyme because I did not have RA symptoms- this was after a positive test result!!). Clinical diagnosis pointed to my CNS.
The Lyme test will only show positive for antibodies. Where it is colonizing is clinical diagnosis only which depends on symptoms being manifested. No advancement in testing has been done in over 40+ years. My understanding is that the blood test is less effective that the covid PCR (eyeroll) and there are over 50% false negatives. Raises a question for me as to why this poor performance is allowed.
CDC allows multiple refills on antibiotics for acne and lifelong antibiotic treatment for syphilis, but you only get one course of antibiotics for Lyme - supposedly for superbug containment. See "Under Our Skin" and draw your own conclusions.
After the course of antibiotics is complete, Lymies need to seek further treatment through Lyme literate doctors and clinics. It can be a bit of the wild west in this landscape.
Interesting note - My Lyme CNS symptoms resemble covid vaxx symptoms of brain fog, rage, panic attacks, cognitive difficulties, etc. NOT clot however.
Is the transmission narrative about deer and other infected animals just b.s.? IDK. It would not surprise me. It would explain how the infected ticks got all over the US instead of staying localized near Plum Island. Especially since we know the government attacked us with the covid/covid vaxx.
Healing Lyme (Buhner) was helpful for supplements. It is a really good resource for being your own doctor. Ivermectin made the difference for me.
Including u/tweety51A since you have family here.
I've had Lyme for over 30 years, all of my cartilage has been munched away by the bacteria Borrelia Burgdorfi, it loves carilage, I have none, its in my handss wrists spine ankles knees neck and shoulders. Fighting it all these years, I developed Mast Cell Reactive Syndrome, which is a nightmare in itself. I have an excellent doctor, and in treating the MCAS, much pain and inflammation, with the pain meds, is managed and tolerated. It was developed on Plum Island, they infected the ticks, then infected the deer, thing is, deer swam the short distance to the connecticutt mainland. I was 38 years old when I caught it, it has affected me most of my life. I am 73 now, and it was natural healing, strict diets, the Grace of God, that has kept me surviving. There are no reparations for people like me, but, I managed a rich life of nature and homesteading, had a son and raised him as a single mom. Self piity is not allowed in my home. I have tried to get rid of it, and I think it is suppressed right now, but due to the MCAS, I have to be very careful of herxing, the last one had me in the ER going into anaphylaxis. My current doc said it is too late for antibiotics, the amount I would have to have would kill me. I am still healthier than a lot of women my age, but my peers and friendship circle are all old hippie gals who have been anti vax and natural healing before it was embraced by a lot of folks here. I am talking about the women who live in a chemical world, eat tons of crap, and have taken pharma all their lives, not my peer group. My immediate acreage is tick free thanks to the army of chickens I have kept for these 35 years, and I don't wander off my property too much anymore, like hikes and stuff, because a 1 mile walk does me in, anyway. Lyme disease may or may not be cured, but I know there are a lot of snake oil vendors out there, I know, because i have tried them all.
Yes. Snake oil. This is exactly what I was getting at in one of my posts where I mention that obtaining treatment is like a wild west landscape!
MCAS. I remember a book that talked about a protocol for it for people with sensitivity. It is called Toxic by Dr. Nathan. It deals with mold, Lyme, mcas, etc. It sounds like you have a great doc and something that is working. I only mention it because you might be able to glean a bit from it.
Herxing. That one would always catch me off guard. Always. For what ever reason I would always think that it would react as flu like symptoms. BUT because it had colonized in my CNS, of course I would get brain inflamation, which would in turn manifest itself as servere depression and suicide ideation. Thankfully my husband started to recognize what was happening. CBD oil would help at this point as I would relearn once again.
It sounds like herxing gets life threatening for you. I am sorry.
thank you. Yes, i was following a strict parasite cleanse, after the 8th day, I had terrible gerd in the middle of the night, followed by head to toe hives, my skin was covered, by the time I got to the ER my pulse was almost 190 and my B/P was 74/32, they had to bolus an IV of a st rong antihistamine and steroids, as the histamine was leaving my body, I had seizures. I am scared to eat ketchup now, lol, because any histamine containing foods could trigger a mild reaction or a crisis. I have an excellent doctor, she is focused on auto immune issues and MCAS. Years and years of my immune system fighting the Lyme bacteria caused the MCAS, Luckily, the maintenance is simple, Claritin, Pepcid AC, and Singular, all put the MAST cells at ease. Believe me, I would have tried Ivermectin, but I dare not risk a die off that would cause a herx reaction again. I have an epi pen I hope I never have to use. Adding to this, I also take Quercitin, Liposomal C B and folic acid liquid, NAC, CoQ10, Special Probiotics, Alpha Lipoic Acid, D, Zinc, Fish Oild and Cod Liver Oil, Selenium, Ginger, Magnesium, and Weed, which I grow myself.