Salty Cracker and Wall Street Apes are now insinuating it. The op was a success, they've created a narrative binary where either space lasers did it or climate change (MSM narrative) did it. Meanwhile the much more likely story (strategic arson ahead of high winds + collusion with crooked state and local officials to mishandle the response on purpose) has effectively been shoved under the rug. Now instead of having the entire internet digging into that to possibly find some arsonists or conspiracies to mishandle response, they are instead "laser focused" on space lasers.
Of course, if the DEW theory is correct, this is fine. I just don't think it is.
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Theres no knee jerk reaction here. Im simply discussing possibilities. Playing devils advocate. But when mods make a thread mocking its own members because of something like a dew i think it harms the entire community. We need to keep an open mind and discuss all possible outcomes. Discuss every point in both directions.
Im not saying this was caused by a dew but it could have been. Thats not really something we can know at this point. But im open to that possibility. More so after seeing the strike in michigan some 3 years ago that they tried to call a meteor.
But i think those quickly to dismiss such possibilities without giving it any time, are the problem. Close/small minded and naive in general.
Possibilities must first be possible. I have pointed out repeatedly that there are no known DEW systems that would be suitable to such a purpose. And that the nature of DEW systems being optical would make it a difficult match for the problem. In addition to which there is no evidence for DEWs having been used, nor are people even considering what conceivable evidence could be found---but people are not even talking about evidence. They are content to talk up fairy tales. This does not seem like open-mindedness at all; it seems like a total fixation on a delusion. To the point of fixing on entirely unrelated issues as "evidence" of a fantasy (e.g., "blue roofs").
The premise that "possibilities" are being discussed is hollow. Is anyone discussing airplanes dropping napalm? No. Is anyone discussing the use of arbalests to launch fire arrows? No. Is anyone discussing the coordination of arsonists? Not so much; it is being pushed aside because it is not sexy enough. Is anyone discussing the falling of sparking power lines? No, because "it is the narrative" and must be ignored (even though it is the most credible answer).
There has been no quick dismissal, at least on my part. I am the only one here who has knowledge of the field and have been trying to educate the ignorant about the facts of the matter. You certainly can't accuse me of being naive.
I will repeat again, having an open mind does not mean having an empty mind.
My comments werent directed toward you but you seemed to have taken offense to them.
And no known systems? You couldnt possibly know that. Stop pretending like you are in the know.
And secondly you are wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1toVupe_R8
They've been openly testing these weapons for at least a decade. So talk a step back and calm your wilful ignorance. You arent educating anyone here.
Heres another official example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMx1-yaRLyQ
I mean the irony of your patronizing posts here is comical at this point. I didnt have a problem with you or your posts directly until you stepped the arrogance levels to 10 and proved that you have no idea what youre talking about. Theyve been openly testing multiple systems for a decade that the public knows of and you still post drivel like that. Come on man.
You haven't been following what I have been saying. I have repeatedly pointed out that there are surface-to-air DEWs under field test from land and water, which is only what you are catching up with. They are not suitable to go after land targets from airplanes above, and that is what I said. (I have been following these surface weapon developments for years.) The only wilful ignorance is yours, in failing to pay attention. The interesting thing about them is that they are electric fiber-based lasers, with maybe 30% quantum efficiency. The question will be if they have solved the power and thermal cooling requirements for successive rapid shots.
The "irony of my patronizing posts" is that I have been correct. Land-based high-energy lasers have been around since the 1970s, shooting down tethered helicopters (I saw the footage)---but they were laboratory systems, not operational ones. That's a freebie. You want airborne lasers with muscle, go look up YAL-1A, for which I did initial preliminary design work (1970s), edited the winning proposal for the development contract (1990s), and conducted mission analysis for the system in development (2000s). Including shoot-down missions (possible, but a waste of resources; easier to get the job done with conventional means).
In any case, it is just a charade that people here are talking about "all possibilities." They are turning up their nose at the boring ones and spending time on the treasured ones---just as you are doing.
The Lockhead video i linked you shows the systems equipped on a plane. A quick google search shows several results of these systems equipped on planes as well.
Whats available to the public is decades behind whats already been built. If you think that they were testing these systems 50+ years ago and couldnt figure it out by now youre crazy.
China has a system that can disable satellites from the ground. So why couldnt that work in reverse, from a satellite/satellites to the ground.
Elon has been sending thousands of satellites up. No one spends that kind of money just to use them for internet access.
There is no charade, this is how stuff is being leaked to the public. Slow and obvious. Full declass incoming.