What if I told you that all of the worlds religions have either been created or co-opted by the hidden hand.. what if I told you that most of us don’t practice the same mercy we wish to obtain for ourselves.. what if I told you that in order to obtain forgiveness, you first must learn to forgive and forgive.. what if I told you that Christianity has the most version and sects out of any religion, because it was Christianity that almost unified humanity, but the hidden hand caused the divisions and corrupted Christianity and its purpose… what if I told you that your churches are not there to shine light on the darkness, but to expand that darkness by separating the light… what if I told you that there is a straight path out of darkness in unity, the pyramid or prism divides the light into its many different colors, but the light remains one, even in its division light is still light… how long will you allow the prism/pyramid to divide you from the rest of you?
Where we go one, we go all.
“The Name”, yes, and also, “The Character”.
The Jewish God and the Christian God are the same. The difference is on whether the Messiah came, and what we are called by Him to do.
Ha’Shem isn’t used so much to replace His Name as much as Adonai and Elohim are. It has a different context.
This is where we will have to disagree. The Jewish God as most people would call him Yahweh is not the creator of all. Some rabbis at very high levels of spiritual understanding know this truth. There is a reason the book of formation and the Zohar are reserved for those who are over 40 years old and married. ;).
Jesus’ very name bound him to Yahweh, Jesus never renounced Yahweh, he was identifiable through the words of the prophets, who also all bound their names to Yahweh, and he and the apostles both proclaimed that he was the Word of Yahweh made flesh - the perfect walking out of the Old Testament Covenant with Yahweh. Feel free to provide scriptural evidence to the contrary.
You appear to be advocating Kabbalistic Gnosticism, which I believe was acquired as a mode of thought during the Babylonian captivity, and would also explain the many vague claims with minimal evidence provided, which in my experience seems to be a hallmark of Gnosticism for whatever reason. If I am incorrect, you have my apologies, but for any Christian reading this, the gnostics and the adherents of The Way often strongly disagreed ideologically in the early days following Messiah’s coming. I recommend doing research before accepting these claims - and before accepting my claims too, for that matter.
“ ‘The Elohim who the Bible repeatedly and consistently names as Adonai of all creation’ is not actually the creator of all, and the Bible lies.” is a pretty big claim that requires better evidence than a contested 15th century mystical book from Spain. I also do not see the reasoning by which you can reject YHWH, yet seem to accept the man who claimed His Name and his teachings.
However, you do seem to get things correct when you state that division within the body is not of Christ, per the very name “de-NOM-ination”, or “Removal from The Name”. Proverbs 14:12 - There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. You are also correct that there are spiritual and other truths that are ignored by modern “religion”, whatever that distinction is in full (the word may not mean the same to me as to you). The church is most definitely not walking things out correctly, or we would not be here, but having heard many of gnosticism’s teachings, we do indeed disagree that it is the answer.
Ideological and factual disagreements aside, whatever the proper path is, may your feet tread upon it. Peace to you.
The Bible has been heavily manipulated and distorted… if you can’t understand why or how, you simply don’t have the clarity you need to go further in this conversation.. the Kabbalah has also fallen victim to the same forces who altered the Bible. Every single religion on this planet has a bit of truth mixed with a lot of lies… I am sorry but I can only explain to you what you ask.. if you need me to explain something in detail feel free to ask and I will answer it to the best of my ability, obey your right to know or not know.
Correct, it has been mistranslated and distorted. I’ve experienced one of the edit failures personally. I do try to cross reference things as a result, and I never said it hadn’t been distorted or misinterpreted.
I said that claiming the central figure of both the Old and New Testament, who is mentioned thousands of times in both books, to not be who he says, while still accepting the central figure of the New Testament, is a big claim, stated that big claims require big evidence, and offered you a chance to provide that evidence.
It’s all good, though.
You engaged me. I was only engaging YeshuaSupreme, and have said my peace at this point.