What if I told you that all of the worlds religions have either been created or co-opted by the hidden hand.. what if I told you that most of us don’t practice the same mercy we wish to obtain for ourselves.. what if I told you that in order to obtain forgiveness, you first must learn to forgive and forgive.. what if I told you that Christianity has the most version and sects out of any religion, because it was Christianity that almost unified humanity, but the hidden hand caused the divisions and corrupted Christianity and its purpose… what if I told you that your churches are not there to shine light on the darkness, but to expand that darkness by separating the light… what if I told you that there is a straight path out of darkness in unity, the pyramid or prism divides the light into its many different colors, but the light remains one, even in its division light is still light… how long will you allow the prism/pyramid to divide you from the rest of you?
Where we go one, we go all.
Yes, and that path is Christ Jesus.
Many of the churches may be corrupted, but Christ is uncorruptible.
Also, there are still good churches out there to be found. It is very much worth finding one.
Just say no to religion. Jesus Christ accomplished all.
inconvenient truth: Jesus Christ taught and established true religion. Even organized. Doh!
Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world. Micah 6:8 Top Flight verse right there. Most people consider religion a way to make sure they make it into heaven it seems. Not saying you do.
Uh, no. It was “religion” that killed Jesus. Christian in literal terms means mini Christ. I say this in the context of giving your life to Christ. The closer you become to Christ the more your will is given over to His. We are talking about a personal relationship with the King of the Universe, The Lord of Heavens Armies, The Almighty God Himself, not just some kind of organized religion.
What does Christ mean? What did he mean when he said to love one another.. what did he mean when he said where two or more are gathered in my name, I will be amongst them.
Christ is the infinite unfathomable God made into a man whom we can know. Love one another means exactly that, love for your fellow man and love for God is key to the kingdom of heaven. And when two are more are gathered in his name, he is with us. Again, that means exactly what it says.
Indeed. The kingdom of heaven is not a place where you can point and say look, the kingdom is within.
I’ve been trying to point out to people that they aren’t calling either “God” or “Jesus” by their names.
“There’s something about that name” is that His followers aren’t saying either of them. :-)
The movement to get Ha’Shem back on the lips of believers will succeed!!
Judaism like Christianity is also co-opted. Many Rabbis who practice are well aware of this truth. God, and divinity transcends any religion
Who suggested “Judaism”?
I suggested knowing and using proper names.
Hashem means the name in Hebrew, a term used by Jews to replace the name of their God Yahweh
“The Name”, yes, and also, “The Character”.
The Jewish God and the Christian God are the same. The difference is on whether the Messiah came, and what we are called by Him to do.
Ha’Shem isn’t used so much to replace His Name as much as Adonai and Elohim are. It has a different context.
This is where we will have to disagree. The Jewish God as most people would call him Yahweh is not the creator of all. Some rabbis at very high levels of spiritual understanding know this truth. There is a reason the book of formation and the Zohar are reserved for those who are over 40 years old and married. ;).
Jesus’ very name bound him to Yahweh, Jesus never renounced Yahweh, he was identifiable through the words of the prophets, who also all bound their names to Yahweh, and he and the apostles both proclaimed that he was the Word of Yahweh made flesh - the perfect walking out of the Old Testament Covenant with Yahweh. Feel free to provide scriptural evidence to the contrary.
You appear to be advocating Kabbalistic Gnosticism, which I believe was acquired as a mode of thought during the Babylonian captivity, and would also explain the many vague claims with minimal evidence provided, which in my experience seems to be a hallmark of Gnosticism for whatever reason. If I am incorrect, you have my apologies, but for any Christian reading this, the gnostics and the adherents of The Way often strongly disagreed ideologically in the early days following Messiah’s coming. I recommend doing research before accepting these claims - and before accepting my claims too, for that matter.
“ ‘The Elohim who the Bible repeatedly and consistently names as Adonai of all creation’ is not actually the creator of all, and the Bible lies.” is a pretty big claim that requires better evidence than a contested 15th century mystical book from Spain. I also do not see the reasoning by which you can reject YHWH, yet seem to accept the man who claimed His Name and his teachings.
However, you do seem to get things correct when you state that division within the body is not of Christ, per the very name “de-NOM-ination”, or “Removal from The Name”. Proverbs 14:12 - There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. You are also correct that there are spiritual and other truths that are ignored by modern “religion”, whatever that distinction is in full (the word may not mean the same to me as to you). The church is most definitely not walking things out correctly, or we would not be here, but having heard many of gnosticism’s teachings, we do indeed disagree that it is the answer.
Ideological and factual disagreements aside, whatever the proper path is, may your feet tread upon it. Peace to you.
They'll show you they can't see the forrest for the trees. The indoctrination is to strong.
Indeed.
The genuine Love of Jesus Christ may have been parodied by many Temple merchants to take the Faithful away from His steps, so religion indeed may have been perverted, hence the dubious Pope scheming from the Vatican.
But God and Jesus Christ are real which is why mass mediatized religions should be as suspect as the UN agencies. Churches should be local communities with just the conscience of other existing similar communities having their own slightly different rules and it should be tolerated as long as it doesn’t taint the local community…
This is spouting yet another faction we can call Morpheusism. Aka ancient gnosticism in new clothes.
Christianity, unfortunately for your OP points, was in direct and seamless continuity with the religion of the prophets from centuries, millennia, prior... which unequivocally explained that in this world and in this life there is a fundamental antithesis among the human race.
In terms of the early chapters of Genesis it is described as those who are the "seed of the woman" vs those who are the "seed of the serpent." The one would oppose the other. One spiritual line would be in covenant communion with their creator and redeemer God, the other spiritual line would be in covenant communion with their dark lord who promises them ultimate Autonomy and self Potentiation (either through every ramshackle spiritual and philosophical trend including gnosticism, or entire religious and secular empires) apart from any notions of corrupting guilt in need of forgiveness and justification before an awesome and holy God.
So conflict, hostility and lack of unity are endemic to the history of mankind. It simply proves that there is a fundamental existential guilt and judgment problem that must be resolved. Jesus confirmed this state of affairs in his own recorded teachings to his disciples, including what to expect as they were commissioned to go out and proclaim the good news of salvation by grace in his name. They were also warned that division within the Christ movement itself was going to be a threat and a danger. The antidote was for the community of believers, the churches, to be organized around and devoted to the gospel, and the consequent instructions and practices which united them in bonds of love and service to God and one another. True, living, vibrant, organized religion was the only means that God divinely revealed for his people to function in this world, what Christ built and has been building on himself the rock of salvation.
Christ is love, unconditional love. In order to find the Truth about Christianity and its many versions. Examine which version demonstrates the qualities of a Christ… the answer might be shocking.
You sound like Alice A. Bailey, which means you're spouting the enemy's teachings and don't even realize it.
I do t even know who that is. I’m simply sharing what resonates with truth. If you disagree then you have your reasons.
That's why I said you don't even realize it.
That still doesn’t change the message I’m sharing. If you chose to see doom and gloom. That’s all you will see. If you chose to see light and love, that’s is all you will see.
https://www.lucistrust.org/online_books/the_externalisation_the_hierarchy_obook/the_return_the_christ_part1
The writings of Alice A. Bailey are the basis for the UN's recommended education curriculum.
One United world is not a bad thing. Naturally those who wish to enslave humanity for their service to self agenda are eager to implement a one world government. Tribes become nations due to unity. This is the natural progression of the human experience, all societies that survive survive thru unity. But like anything in life, there is a negative and a positive way of achieving this goal.
The Christian version I found that resembles Jesus best is....ME. The ekklēsia. There is no one version friend, God doesn't need to OK what he does with you or me. If he wants differences, He gets them. I find God loves differences, man wants to make and unify everything under his ideas, God himself divided the Nations and He is looking to build 1 Nation into a Kingdom. Look no further than the USA and what is know as the Bible belt. You got your 1500 miles left, right, and UP for the "Rods from God" or as it was know in the Bible He will Rule with a Rod of Iron. It's all there, ties it all together, plain as the nose on your face.
If you truly understand what you are, you will learn the truth. I agree with what you are saying. Unity is the truth. Separation is the illusion.
Currently I am a Foot Soldier in an Army of Invisible Soldiers....soon to be seen
Okay then how do we practice Unity? I'm currently into A Course in Miracles right now, it gives me something practical to do everyday. You're saying a lot of things but how do you practice it?
Read the law of one Ra material
Here is a link for you to download a free PDF from the source directly. https://www.llresearch.org/
I'll check that out thanks. You probably know about the emerald tablets of thoth but that's a fun one to check out if you don't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4LV7V8q7fc
Yes, emerald tablets are useful, again you have to learn to notice lie from fiction or purposeful misguided information.
If you are willing to take the challenge I encourage you to read the Kybalion, it is the key that unlocks all the doors hidden behind the words of the worlds religions. Each one holds a bit of truth, together they form the entire story.
A course in miracles is one of the most accurate books on spirituality. The second one is the Law of one Ra material… be made aware, both of these books contain about 90% truth. There is still tainting by the hidden hand.
Interesting and insightful post, WarMind.
I've long thought that any religion's core teachings should fit on a 3 X 5 card, should be presented up-front at the beginning of its text, and be expanded after that with details consonant with the core teachings. Of course -- sigh -- it's too late for that.
The confusion caused by the "you can support any position with text from the Bible"^ factor is a major reason for division among Christians, in my experience. (^Yes, I understand that's an overstatement).
The expanded details of any religion naturally and beneficially include cultural differences, as long as they don't conflict with the most IMPORTANT of the core teachings, which is:
Any TRUE religion must obviously emphasize emotionally healthy behavior and attitudes. There are many ways to do this; Jainism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Sikhism famously do so with Ahimsa, the doctrine of non-violence to all living things, which those religions and their adherents conform to in slightly different ways, especially as regards vegetarianism.
Jesus did this most famously with his admonitions about love, about proper treatment of children, and (IMO, but I'm probably an outlier here), in his statement about the location of the Kingdom of God / Heaven:
Clearly, any admonition to initiation of violence against others (human sacrifice, violent jihad against those who believe differently, etc) is at odds with the healthy ethos that defines a true religion.
Indeed. Jesus was more of a buddhist in the sense of practice, when compared to a modern Christian. Many fail to understand the journey Jesus Christ underwent is also the personal journey we must all undertake.
Then I would tell you that you don’t know what true religion is, and have mistaken organizations and corporations masquerading as religious as religion itself.
The search for this unity through Science, Art, Philosophy, Theology, etc., IS religion.
“There is no religion higher than Truth.”
Religion is superstition. Spirituality is completely different.
Jesus denied the Pharisees' many absurd religious rituals
Indeed. Religion is man trying to reach God.. spirituality is the Source/GOD communicating to man.
Amen
Superstition is superstition.
I do agree with where you’re coming from, in that the vast majority of modern “religions” are riddled with superstition and dogma, but that does not mean that pure religion ought to lose its true, ancient meaning.
When I say religion I mean to say man made structures of dogma that has nothing to do with awakening human consciousness. But everything with separation and egoism.
Which I can agree with generally. But it is important to distinguish the true, universal Religion, which is the outer shell of that ‘straight and narrow path which leadeth unto Life’ and encompasses all true Science and Art, from its more modern and corrupted offspring, “religions.”
Truth is unity… all came from the one, all is the one, all will return to the one.
Christianity in itself is great, but followers sometimes mess Christianity up. Christianity does not preach conflict, but followers can cause it.
This IS partly by design, I believe (as WarMind says) but it is also -- even moreso -- the result of emotional damage, especially early in life. (Hence, horrors like the Inquisition and Salem Witch burnings, to name two particularly nasty examples).
The large Kaiser ACE study is an excellent overview of the problems that trauma in childhood can cause throughout later life:
ACE Study What is an ACE? An Adverse Childhood Experience (ACE) is defined as experiencing any of the following categories of abuse, neglect, or loss prior to age 18:
Beginning in 1994, the "adverse childhood experiences" (ACE) Study, a partnership between the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and Kaiser Permanente assessed the relationship between adult health risk behaviors and childhood abuse and household dysfunction.
The study began with a sample of 9,508 individuals representing a 70.5% response rate. Respondents were given a score of one for each ACE category that they experienced.
Findings showed that people who experienced four or more adverse childhood events had:
A follow-up sample combined with baseline data for a total sample of 17,337. Additional findings show that ACE Score is associated with:
ACE Score is also correlated with:
Not mentioned in the above: the symptoms caused in adulthood by childhood trauma had a strong, graded relation to the NUMBER of different traumas. And psychological symptoms of many types are absent or only hinted at in the data; "conflict" -- including between Christians -- is, I believe, a major result of all this early trauma.
Jesus knew what he was talking about when he told His flock to not "offend" children.
This is by design. The many versions of Christianity and churches are purposefully made to divide people. True Christianity = unconditional love.
You are spot on, WarMind. John 13:34 - 35 makes that clear as a bell. Loving others is the actual commandment that Jesus added for his followers:
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COVID-19 is a religion.
for division and control, keep you in line if you think you'll go to hell for doing something they don't want you to be doing.
Fear is the mechanism negativity used to enslave and control. I agree completely
K, how?
Did you ever see the movie Contact?
I didn't like it that much, but at the end she went on a journey and was there for a time, but the people said "nothing happened you fell straight down". She said that they should have sent a poet because she couldn't describe it.
In a way, that's what religion is like in this fallen world. It's people in a fallen world trying to express how it is in heaven, to the people of the fallen world.
I'm not a big fan of the dogmas of religion, through which egoistical people have corrupted and divided like their father the devil. But i will say that there are important routes in religious texts that can help line up your spirit with God to see the truth. Also that there are people who have found God and desire to share that discovery with others.
My take on it is that religion and the church is like a shadow in this world, a shadow of the true church, which Christ is the High Priest of.
We can be His friend. He will be our friend. We can commune. He will make us stronger.
Language is an attempt to describe the fluid, ever-changing, unique, connected, ineffable nature of life and of reality generally by using static, delimited, common symbols (words). That it works even as poorly as it does is a miracle.
Yes contact has a very good hermetically sealed message for humanity. Just like there is negative forces making films and movies, the opposite is also true.
...and then it begins. I guess your forgot that unfortunately, with the Patriot movement, you have brothers and sisters here who are patently convinced of their own moral superiority, and (like Leftists) push their own philosophical and religious viewpoints continually, even in posts that do not require discussions about Faith, Jesus, God etc. They absolutely feel compelled to push Jesus into 'every' conversation, and wonder why they are seen as annoying, weird, and close minded. They do not understand or appreciate history, the true history of the Bible manuscript, or new developments in scroll research that point to many new developments in understanding of Christ, Jewish and Christian history, the early church, and their evolving groups and their Christian and Jewish literature. There are millions of Patriots that come from many backgrounds that all celebrate Freedom, Liberty, the Constitution, Trump, MAGA and Q, and they are not all Bible Thumping Hard Core Christian Fanatics. They are Patriots who want to talk about the movement, not get lectured continually about how there is only one path, Jesus is the only way, and how no one else is right except for Fanatic Christians. Not really the best way to entreat someone into a path of new faith, if you ask me.
The bell tolls for organized religion as much as for the rabid leftists and yet a huge swath of posters on this site are even more blissfully unaware of the coming crisis of faith.
More blissfully unaware because they spend many hours posting about "awakening" and are tangentially very close to and familiar with the concept of the "great deception" yet never, ever grok, that it is them who have been deceived by their subject/object based, static, social moral code, LARPING as a unifying theory of reality borne from love.
The left actually only have ancillary (fake) Gods like global warming and communism to climb down from, where as the religious right has an (actual) fake religion to disentangle their entire mental process and being from.
I can't wait.
Jesus as the path to God is the oldest and most damaging propaganda their is. It's the original point of application of the knife to cut you off from God.
If true Christians would understand and know the message Christ left for all of us, I guarantee you there would not be a single church standing… I guess the real message is not intended for everyone, but only those who are ready, as to not undermine the free will of the soul.
You are bright.
Thank you Sir !
You are no slouch either it seems.
Ultimately there will only be one religion. The religion of unconditional love… for many this will cause panic and fear, and that is because they fail to understand the message of Christ and unconditional love. If more Christian’s practiced true Christianity, we would be way ahead of schedule.. how ever, the many churches only serve to divide the kingdom of God.. your post holds a lot of water, hopefully those who are thirsty will drink and gain the wisdom contained within.
Blessings to you, keep shining in the darkness… the more lights, the more intense, the more intense, the less darkness. We only need enough darkness to appreciate the light..
I think christianity is in the created by the hidden hand category including the story of jesus. Pretty wild to have those mindblowing supernatural occurrences but no one at the time thought it was worth writing down at the time. Furthermore I think it was designed to bring the peoples of europe under control by christianity's parent religion. Has the usury/no usury dichotomy not brought extreme power and wealth to the usurers at the expense of the goyim?
Seriously? No one thought to write it down? Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Timothy, Jude. The historian Josephus.
I mean at the time. That stuff came way later. Pretty big fuckin' deal to walk on water and turn the sky dark and everything else but no one thought it was very remarkable at the time.
No, all those men I named were there, up close and personal and saw with their own eyes. But now, thousands of years later, you are trying to discredit their recorded information. These records were all written onto scrolls which were meticulously cared for (under penalty of death) and passed down to the next generations. Eventually they were put into book format.
Josephus, a Greek historian of that time, made mention of Jesus of Nazareth and of miracles. At the time of his writing he was not a follower of Jesus Christ.
Wrong
Flavius Josephus Roman–Jewish historian Born: 37 AD, Jerusalem
And are you not aware most biblical scholars consider Josephus' mention to be a later forgery by Eusebius?
Regarding the gospels: "The Gospel of Mark probably dates from c. AD 66–70, Matthew and Luke around AD 85–90, and John AD 90–110. Despite the traditional ascriptions, all four are anonymous and most scholars agree that none were written by eyewitnesses."
You sound vaxxed.
"most scholars" is exactly like "9 out of 10 scientists agree..." "51 intelligence officials, blah, blah, blah"
You are in fact ignorant but pushy.
Just curious, what do you have to say about the “evidence” of countless men woman and children, who over the last 2000 years have experienced first hand the power of God and authority of Jesus Christ in their lives and who were so convinced that they would not recant in the face of being horribly tortured and executed, many of whom watching family tortured before them yet not renouncing his name and authority.
That isn’t evidence to you or strike your curiosity of what it is that they experienced that so convinced them?
It's the power of belief. What would you say about all the world's peoples experiences of other gods?
Your exactly right. Belief is the basis. Jesus walked away from his home town because their was such unbelief.
Concerning other religions, I would say that within the deep desires of man there is the desire to worship and idolize and no one is exempt. It is just a matter of what and who you worship. This leaves man vulnerable to deception because of that inherent desire.
Concerning gods and the human experience within other religions, my belief is that these entities and gods that have interacted with humans on a spiritual plane are the fallen angels of old. The enemy knows the spiritual and physical laws that the Creator put into place and uses those to woo and deceive the gullible. Lucifer called his buddies down to the earth saying we can be gods (interesting all the different religions that espouse the same lie). They understood the power of blood sacrifice and covenant and how the spiritual realm interacts with our physical one and so concerning other religions every great lie is seeded in truth. Every other world religion would have you either worship the self or the creation and not the creator.
The question lies within the individual on whether or not humility has led him in a quest to seek and know absolute truth.
Yes, I do believe there are spiritual truths and real experiences that convinces people into belief within other religions. The issue then lies on what is absolute truth and who’s God is more powerful. Witch doctors, holy men and shamans all around the globe have confronted missionaries and Gods soldiers and there are plenty of stories revealing who’s God is more powerful and who the one true God that reigns above all other gods and religions truly is.
All of the worlds religions are either cratered or hijacked by the hidden hand. The reason Christianity has so many versions it’s because it was very close to unifying humanity. This is dangerous for those in power, because it takes the power form them, and gives it to the people with the concept of universal freedom.. America was founded in Christian values… true Christian values. I can only say so much without acquiring negative consequences. The rest is up to you to uncover.
But you are ignoring my point about jesus being invented as evidenced by no one at the time noticing those once-ever in history extreme paranormal events. Created and even further co-opted and corrupted.
Jesus has came to us many times in human history.
But no one noticed at any of those times whenever they are supposed to have been. Seems completely made up.
You are into to history, it is very easy to notice.
Do you mean you think I am into history or IF one is into history it is easy to notice? Because I agree with the former but see no evidence of the latter.
You are absolutely correct! Jesus was even a fraud. He was real, but not in the way Christians think and there is loads of historical evidence.