Fascinating. The best thing to do is to continue to track it. Get a measurement tool, even just a fixed telescope, and marking the windows with an erasable marker is good enough to calculate its time and position.
There is a lot of fascinating info out about the moon, for instance, did you know fresh water doesn’t have tides? That makes the moon’s influence on water magnetic, not gravity.
Uhhh, freshwater bodies absolutely do have tides. And the moon doesn’t have a magnetic field. And even distilled water is polar and diamagnetic, so freshwater should respond to magnetic fields about the same as salt water.
He utterly dismisses the concept of "amphidromic points" without explaining why it's wrong. Even a cursory reading on the subject shows that several complex mechanisms are simultaneously in play:
The sun's tidal force on the earth.
The moon's tidal force on the earth.
Wave reflection off of coastlines.
Wave amplitude increase and propagation speed decrease as the wave passes over the continental shelf.
Each of these 4 effects creates its own wave pattern. What happens when you have different wave patterns in the same medium? They will constructively interfere at some points and destructively interfere at other points.
But Stolen History dismisses all of this because they think 1 small spot on the earth (New Zealand) doesn't conform. Not only does he not explain how New Zealand violates the principle of amphidromic points, even if he did demonstrate an anomaly, the presence of an anomaly does not discredit the entire theory. Of course, he also dismisses it all as "mainstream science", as if a fact's popularity or lack thereof determines its validity.
He then goes on to say that tides rotate around New Zealand "like a magnet". While magnetic fields can rotate, they do not have to. And just because A rotates like B does not mean that B causes A, or vice versa. This is such a weak argument that it doesn't even deserve to be called one.
Can water be moved with magnetism? Yes.
How strong of a magnetic field do you need? A minimum of 10 Tesla (T), and you need 16 Tesla to levitate a frog a few centimeters. Earth's magnetic field at sea level is 16 - 65 microTesla, about a million times weaker than that.
Earth's magnetic field is not strong enough to deflect any kind of diamagnetic material, and other forces (gravity, coriolis force, ocean currents, etc.) are going to overwhelm by several orders of magnitude any magnetic affect that could theoretically be present.
So not only does Stolen History make the colossal fallacy of assuming that one unproven anomaly discredits all the evidence in favor of gravitational tides, he doesn't even come close to providing a viable, testable, alternative explanation.
In other words, SH is not engaging in anything remotely approximating science. All he has are baseless accusations that the "mainstream" explanation is wrong and that his idea is right because (insert phenomenon here) "rotates like a magnet", even though magnets don't rotate unless an external force makes them. What external force is causing SH's magnet under New Zealand to rotate? No explanation is provided because it's a lot easier to spout of ideas than actually support them with evidence.
Moral of the story: when a website's premise is that substantial chunks of human history have been suppressed or erased (which is an untestable and unfalsifiable proposition), you can safely discredit any of their incoherent ramblings on any given subject.
‘Here's a crazy rabbit hole: Are there tides on inland bodies of water?
It turns out there are, but only when those bodies are SALTY. There are NO tides on freshwater bodies. And it appears that the saltier the body, the higher the tidal amplitude. There are NO tides in the great lakes (fresh) but observed tides in the dead sea, great salt lake, caspian sea, baltic and black seas.’
And I do believe there is enough evidence to prove that history has intentionally been misrepresented. The theories are at minimum q adjacent. Too many coincidences.
That site has a lot of people posting theories, some are easy to discredit, but there is a large amount that are incredible.
Thanks for putting so much thought into your response.
The thing that caught my attention is that in 3 1/2 years in this house because of how it is situated, I have never once been able to see the moon through the front window. I go out to the back porch to smoke at night and was wondering where it could be since it was so very prominent on Sunday night. Then when I came back inside, I saw it through the front window. It was very low compared to the same time Sunday.
Fresh water has tides, they are just too small to be perceptible because fresh bodies of water are much smaller than the ocean at large. Nothing to do with magnetism as far as I know.
I checked out your link and it was not making any movement other than normal rate of rising. The front window is low so I can only see about twice the height of the house across the street unless I stand right at the window. Right now, it is overcast outside so I cannot see the moon but can see the glow in the cloud cover and it is very far east compared to normal. The moon normally moves across the back of the house but is not heading in that direction right now.
Fascinating. The best thing to do is to continue to track it. Get a measurement tool, even just a fixed telescope, and marking the windows with an erasable marker is good enough to calculate its time and position.
There is a lot of fascinating info out about the moon, for instance, did you know fresh water doesn’t have tides? That makes the moon’s influence on water magnetic, not gravity.
Thanks for sharing your info.
Also, these people reported similar phenomenon...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix/comments/o7ho57/the_moon_moved_across_the_sky/
Uhhh, freshwater bodies absolutely do have tides. And the moon doesn’t have a magnetic field. And even distilled water is polar and diamagnetic, so freshwater should respond to magnetic fields about the same as salt water.
This has a good explanation.
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/something-is-very-fishy-with-the-tides.4431/
No, this is not a good explanation at all.
He utterly dismisses the concept of "amphidromic points" without explaining why it's wrong. Even a cursory reading on the subject shows that several complex mechanisms are simultaneously in play:
Each of these 4 effects creates its own wave pattern. What happens when you have different wave patterns in the same medium? They will constructively interfere at some points and destructively interfere at other points.
But Stolen History dismisses all of this because they think 1 small spot on the earth (New Zealand) doesn't conform. Not only does he not explain how New Zealand violates the principle of amphidromic points, even if he did demonstrate an anomaly, the presence of an anomaly does not discredit the entire theory. Of course, he also dismisses it all as "mainstream science", as if a fact's popularity or lack thereof determines its validity.
He then goes on to say that tides rotate around New Zealand "like a magnet". While magnetic fields can rotate, they do not have to. And just because A rotates like B does not mean that B causes A, or vice versa. This is such a weak argument that it doesn't even deserve to be called one.
Can water be moved with magnetism? Yes.
How strong of a magnetic field do you need? A minimum of 10 Tesla (T), and you need 16 Tesla to levitate a frog a few centimeters. Earth's magnetic field at sea level is 16 - 65 microTesla, about a million times weaker than that.
Earth's magnetic field is not strong enough to deflect any kind of diamagnetic material, and other forces (gravity, coriolis force, ocean currents, etc.) are going to overwhelm by several orders of magnitude any magnetic affect that could theoretically be present.
So not only does Stolen History make the colossal fallacy of assuming that one unproven anomaly discredits all the evidence in favor of gravitational tides, he doesn't even come close to providing a viable, testable, alternative explanation.
In other words, SH is not engaging in anything remotely approximating science. All he has are baseless accusations that the "mainstream" explanation is wrong and that his idea is right because (insert phenomenon here) "rotates like a magnet", even though magnets don't rotate unless an external force makes them. What external force is causing SH's magnet under New Zealand to rotate? No explanation is provided because it's a lot easier to spout of ideas than actually support them with evidence.
Moral of the story: when a website's premise is that substantial chunks of human history have been suppressed or erased (which is an untestable and unfalsifiable proposition), you can safely discredit any of their incoherent ramblings on any given subject.
Sources on tides and amphidromic points: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tides_in_marginal_seas https://www.briangwilliams.us/marine-ecology/tides.html https://rwu.pressbooks.pub/webboceanography/chapter/11-2-dynamic-theory-of-tides/
Sources on diamagnetic levitation and the magnetic field strength required: https://www.ru.nl/hfml/research/levitation-explained/diamagnetic-levitation/ https://www.hellovaia.com/explanations/physics/electricity-and-magnetism/diamagnetic-levitation/ https://www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=diamagnetic-levitation http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/education/earthmag.html
This is a good write up. Was it by you or an ai?
What did you think about this portion?
‘Here's a crazy rabbit hole: Are there tides on inland bodies of water?
It turns out there are, but only when those bodies are SALTY. There are NO tides on freshwater bodies. And it appears that the saltier the body, the higher the tidal amplitude. There are NO tides in the great lakes (fresh) but observed tides in the dead sea, great salt lake, caspian sea, baltic and black seas.’
And I do believe there is enough evidence to prove that history has intentionally been misrepresented. The theories are at minimum q adjacent. Too many coincidences.
That site has a lot of people posting theories, some are easy to discredit, but there is a large amount that are incredible.
Thanks for putting so much thought into your response.
The thing that caught my attention is that in 3 1/2 years in this house because of how it is situated, I have never once been able to see the moon through the front window. I go out to the back porch to smoke at night and was wondering where it could be since it was so very prominent on Sunday night. Then when I came back inside, I saw it through the front window. It was very low compared to the same time Sunday.
Fresh water has tides, they are just too small to be perceptible because fresh bodies of water are much smaller than the ocean at large. Nothing to do with magnetism as far as I know.
This has a good explanation.
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/something-is-very-fishy-with-the-tides.4431/
I checked out your link and it was not making any movement other than normal rate of rising. The front window is low so I can only see about twice the height of the house across the street unless I stand right at the window. Right now, it is overcast outside so I cannot see the moon but can see the glow in the cloud cover and it is very far east compared to normal. The moon normally moves across the back of the house but is not heading in that direction right now.