Who says I am fine with people lying to me? I hated AOC and Demonic Rats for lying to my face and a host of other crimes (if my response above is not big enough hint to you). My wrath extends to Republicans that does the same, including McCarthy.
McCarthy is gone and I should be happy. However, the fact that Geatz has to enlist and consort with Demonic Rats to make it happen does raise questions on if he sold his soul to get their cooperation, especially the only time they rush to do something is when they are going to commit great evil. I would be lying to myself if this fact does not bother me and it kills me that everyone is worshipping the ground he steps on when we should keep an eye on him and his cohorts for future betrayal.
The fact that you assume that I am part of the enemy for going against the grain is very unbecoming for a member of a board that emphasis research and not following along with the heard. But then again, getting shouted at is part of being a devil's advocate.
My wrath extends to Republicans that does the same, including McCarthy.
In that case, what do you do with someone like McCarthy, who tells you he will do x, y, and z, as a condition of getting the speakership, and then refuses to do what he agreed to do once he has that gavel in his hand?
What would you DO?
However, the fact that Geatz has to enlist and consort with Demonic Rats to make it happen does raise questions on if he sold his soul to get their cooperation
Yes, he might have made some sort of deal with the D's. OTOH, he might have also got them to go along just because they want to stir up some shit, and he knows it. If he did make a deal, we will eventually figure out what it was, and then we can decide if it was worth it or not. Deals DO have to be made, from time to time. Trump wrote "Art of the Deal."
BUT ...
That does not change the fact that more than 100 REPUBLICANS did not have the BALLS to vote McCarthy out AFTER it was proven that McCarthy stabbed them all in the back on the budget deals.
So ... what would you DO to a speaker in that situation? Let it slide?
I would be lying to myself if this fact does not bother me and it kills me that everyone is worshipping the ground he steps on when we should keep an eye on him and his cohorts for future betrayal.
"Future betrayal?" You mean like what McCarthy has ALREADY done? Again ... what would you DO to those who betray?
You and I agree that we need to keep an eye on ALL of them, including Gaetz. I like most of what Gaetz has been doing, but I certainly do not worship him. I don't worship Trump, either. If he gets back in power, he had BETTER turn DC upside down.
If I find out that Gaetz did something dirty just because he doesn't like McCarthy, then I will revise my position. For now, I KNOW FOR A FACT that McCarthy is dirty. I do NOT know that about Gaetz, and he is doing the right thing, so I give him the benefit of the doubt -- until further notice.
The fact that you assume that I am part of the enemy for going against the grain is very unbecoming for a member of a board that emphasis research and not following along with the heard.
My response to you was precisely because I want to know WHAT YOU WOULD DO ... to a "team member" like McCarthy.
I heard Newt spout his bullshit. I did NOT hear what he would DO to a "team member" who lies and backstabs. Presumably, he would be find with it. (If he would not DO something about it, then that means he IS fine with it -- enough at least to continue letting it happen). Same goes for Nunes and many others who are defending McCarthy.
I asked YOU what YOU would DO to someone like McCarthy ... and you evaded the question.
It is a serious, and (if I do say so myself) a fair question to ask.
My answer is to boot him out, and if other R's don't have the fucking guts to do the right thing, then I would have stirred up some shit with the D's, too.
Just to make a POINT: Do not mess with MAGA!
Establishment is hereby PUT ON NOTICE.
I think this is a good thing -- even a GREAT thing -- that the establishment clown was taken down.
Truthfully, I would vote abstain if I was in Congress that day. Didn't really truly like McCarthy but I will throw myself to Hell before letting my name be listed in favor of the pedophile-supporting Demonic Rats.
Choose one side or the other, but ducking out on your congressional responsibilities would make you worse than the D's, IMO.
And it also means that I was right in what I said before: You would have a man lie to your face, and and stab you in the back, and then DO NOTHING AT ALL ABOUT IT.
Now, I know why you continued to evade my question.
The answer is: YOU WOULD DO NOTHING.
Disgusting.
By the way,don't get mad at me for calling you out on this. I repeatedly asked you directly what you would DO. You purposely evaded my question, several times.
Finally, you admitted you would DO NOTHING. Instead of being mad at me or Gaetz, you should take a good look in the mirror, and ask yourself why you are not acting with integrity.
You say you want to "keep an eye on" people who "betray." You asked why I would claim you were fine with people lying to you.
The fact that you would DO NOTHING to someone who lied and betrayed you and his own caucus is a sign of severe lack of integrity.
I am not saying this to bash you. I am pointing out that it is something to work on.
We cannot have a civilized Rule of Law society if the People will not act with integrity.
Who says I am fine with people lying to me? I hated AOC and Demonic Rats for lying to my face and a host of other crimes (if my response above is not big enough hint to you). My wrath extends to Republicans that does the same, including McCarthy.
McCarthy is gone and I should be happy. However, the fact that Geatz has to enlist and consort with Demonic Rats to make it happen does raise questions on if he sold his soul to get their cooperation, especially the only time they rush to do something is when they are going to commit great evil. I would be lying to myself if this fact does not bother me and it kills me that everyone is worshipping the ground he steps on when we should keep an eye on him and his cohorts for future betrayal.
The fact that you assume that I am part of the enemy for going against the grain is very unbecoming for a member of a board that emphasis research and not following along with the heard. But then again, getting shouted at is part of being a devil's advocate.
In that case, what do you do with someone like McCarthy, who tells you he will do x, y, and z, as a condition of getting the speakership, and then refuses to do what he agreed to do once he has that gavel in his hand?
What would you DO?
Yes, he might have made some sort of deal with the D's. OTOH, he might have also got them to go along just because they want to stir up some shit, and he knows it. If he did make a deal, we will eventually figure out what it was, and then we can decide if it was worth it or not. Deals DO have to be made, from time to time. Trump wrote "Art of the Deal."
BUT ...
That does not change the fact that more than 100 REPUBLICANS did not have the BALLS to vote McCarthy out AFTER it was proven that McCarthy stabbed them all in the back on the budget deals.
So ... what would you DO to a speaker in that situation? Let it slide?
"Future betrayal?" You mean like what McCarthy has ALREADY done? Again ... what would you DO to those who betray?
You and I agree that we need to keep an eye on ALL of them, including Gaetz. I like most of what Gaetz has been doing, but I certainly do not worship him. I don't worship Trump, either. If he gets back in power, he had BETTER turn DC upside down.
If I find out that Gaetz did something dirty just because he doesn't like McCarthy, then I will revise my position. For now, I KNOW FOR A FACT that McCarthy is dirty. I do NOT know that about Gaetz, and he is doing the right thing, so I give him the benefit of the doubt -- until further notice.
My response to you was precisely because I want to know WHAT YOU WOULD DO ... to a "team member" like McCarthy.
I heard Newt spout his bullshit. I did NOT hear what he would DO to a "team member" who lies and backstabs. Presumably, he would be find with it. (If he would not DO something about it, then that means he IS fine with it -- enough at least to continue letting it happen). Same goes for Nunes and many others who are defending McCarthy.
I asked YOU what YOU would DO to someone like McCarthy ... and you evaded the question.
It is a serious, and (if I do say so myself) a fair question to ask.
My answer is to boot him out, and if other R's don't have the fucking guts to do the right thing, then I would have stirred up some shit with the D's, too.
Just to make a POINT: Do not mess with MAGA!
Establishment is hereby PUT ON NOTICE.
I think this is a good thing -- even a GREAT thing -- that the establishment clown was taken down.
Truthfully, I would vote abstain if I was in Congress that day. Didn't really truly like McCarthy but I will throw myself to Hell before letting my name be listed in favor of the pedophile-supporting Demonic Rats.
Good enough answer to you?
No.
I consider that gutless.
Choose one side or the other, but ducking out on your congressional responsibilities would make you worse than the D's, IMO.
And it also means that I was right in what I said before: You would have a man lie to your face, and and stab you in the back, and then DO NOTHING AT ALL ABOUT IT.
Now, I know why you continued to evade my question.
The answer is: YOU WOULD DO NOTHING.
Disgusting.
By the way,don't get mad at me for calling you out on this. I repeatedly asked you directly what you would DO. You purposely evaded my question, several times.
Finally, you admitted you would DO NOTHING. Instead of being mad at me or Gaetz, you should take a good look in the mirror, and ask yourself why you are not acting with integrity.
You say you want to "keep an eye on" people who "betray." You asked why I would claim you were fine with people lying to you.
The fact that you would DO NOTHING to someone who lied and betrayed you and his own caucus is a sign of severe lack of integrity.
I am not saying this to bash you. I am pointing out that it is something to work on.
We cannot have a civilized Rule of Law society if the People will not act with integrity.