No problems with either one. Or do you believe that only the ones in death camps were killed? Millions were executed by special troops in the battlefields of eastern Europe and western Russia. Somehow, during the same period of time, the Axis powers killed over 60 million civilian and military. Seems to have been in the realm of the possible. The Final Solution did indeed compete for resources toward the end of the war, which was a concern for people like Goebbels and Himmler. This was all gone into in detail by the Nuremberg and death camp trials.
Otherwise, what were the death camps for? Tiddlywink competitions?
To answer your rhetorical question, this was the only "good ending" available to us. It came sooner, rather than later. Had it come later, it would have used atom bombs to conclude.
Pretty crazy how there was no physical evidence of all that and how the physics and arithmetic of it just don't add up, but I'll take your word that you don't have an issue with those or logistics. The camps were for containment, like the camps used on the Japanese in America, or transport. Isn't it funny how the population of Jewish people remained stagnant based on census data despite those crazy numbers and then the birth rate immediately plummeted to keep them at a relatively steady level? Crazy. Maybe the data is changed by now, all I know are the numbers I looked up in high school in an old book on a curious whim. Also crazy how newspapers had been reporting the deaths of the same claimed number for decades before the event
Your insistence on calling them death camps shows that you're too indoctrinated to want to have a conversation. Even the people pushing the Holocaust narrative usually refer to them as concentration camps.
There are scenarios I could see where the Nazis were still the worse of two evils, or the other side of the same evil. But why don't you tell me what kind of society they had and what values they were fighting for?
Photographs of the dead in mass graves, with Army and civilian witnesses? Gas chambers, and purchase receipts for Zyklon B? No physical evidence? Don't be absurd.
When people die by droves and are buried within the camp perimeters, yes, they are death camps. What else can you call them? The survivors attest to the systematic executions, of people that they knew.
I'm not interested in any "conversation" that omits or evades the evidence. That is simple dishonesty.
There were no "scenarios." There was only what happened, and it may be that the Nazis were not the worse evil---but bad enough that if our choice was to eliminate it or not, doing so was the right thing to do. The Soviet Union was likely a worse evil, in terms of sheer numbers, but too vast an adversary to fight.
What kind of society was the Nazi Reich and what values were they fighting for? Total conformism, and perfectionist regulation. Individual subordination to "racial" goals and objectives. No action, public or private, that was not under the regime of the Party. Utter disregard and dismissal of "non-Aryan" people. A totally mechanistic view of morality and human life, endorsing sterilization, mercy killing, and arranged marriages. The arrogance, conceit, and racism of being a Master Race. The willingness to die like a fanatic for the furtherance of "lebensraum." I've read a lot about the Third Reich, and I have no sentiment for it at all.
No physical evidence of mass graves were ever found, so photos which could have been for anything is not solid evidence. Zyklon B was a delousing agent, and the gas chambers would have never worked as designed nor were they known about until well after the fact (conveniently). You know how they could have killed them? Stopped feeding them. But instead they had all these fanciful stories which were cooked up after the fact and "witnesses" who only confessed after torture. You know who did not "witness" it? Anyone who was writing diaries at the time (not to conjure up the image of Ann Franks diary which was proven to have been written by her father after the fact as well). Hollywood, the education system, and various governments who made it illegal to question this event (hmm) really did a number
No problems with either one. Or do you believe that only the ones in death camps were killed? Millions were executed by special troops in the battlefields of eastern Europe and western Russia. Somehow, during the same period of time, the Axis powers killed over 60 million civilian and military. Seems to have been in the realm of the possible. The Final Solution did indeed compete for resources toward the end of the war, which was a concern for people like Goebbels and Himmler. This was all gone into in detail by the Nuremberg and death camp trials.
Otherwise, what were the death camps for? Tiddlywink competitions?
To answer your rhetorical question, this was the only "good ending" available to us. It came sooner, rather than later. Had it come later, it would have used atom bombs to conclude.
Pretty crazy how there was no physical evidence of all that and how the physics and arithmetic of it just don't add up, but I'll take your word that you don't have an issue with those or logistics. The camps were for containment, like the camps used on the Japanese in America, or transport. Isn't it funny how the population of Jewish people remained stagnant based on census data despite those crazy numbers and then the birth rate immediately plummeted to keep them at a relatively steady level? Crazy. Maybe the data is changed by now, all I know are the numbers I looked up in high school in an old book on a curious whim. Also crazy how newspapers had been reporting the deaths of the same claimed number for decades before the event
Your insistence on calling them death camps shows that you're too indoctrinated to want to have a conversation. Even the people pushing the Holocaust narrative usually refer to them as concentration camps.
There are scenarios I could see where the Nazis were still the worse of two evils, or the other side of the same evil. But why don't you tell me what kind of society they had and what values they were fighting for?
Photographs of the dead in mass graves, with Army and civilian witnesses? Gas chambers, and purchase receipts for Zyklon B? No physical evidence? Don't be absurd.
When people die by droves and are buried within the camp perimeters, yes, they are death camps. What else can you call them? The survivors attest to the systematic executions, of people that they knew.
I'm not interested in any "conversation" that omits or evades the evidence. That is simple dishonesty.
There were no "scenarios." There was only what happened, and it may be that the Nazis were not the worse evil---but bad enough that if our choice was to eliminate it or not, doing so was the right thing to do. The Soviet Union was likely a worse evil, in terms of sheer numbers, but too vast an adversary to fight.
What kind of society was the Nazi Reich and what values were they fighting for? Total conformism, and perfectionist regulation. Individual subordination to "racial" goals and objectives. No action, public or private, that was not under the regime of the Party. Utter disregard and dismissal of "non-Aryan" people. A totally mechanistic view of morality and human life, endorsing sterilization, mercy killing, and arranged marriages. The arrogance, conceit, and racism of being a Master Race. The willingness to die like a fanatic for the furtherance of "lebensraum." I've read a lot about the Third Reich, and I have no sentiment for it at all.
No physical evidence of mass graves were ever found, so photos which could have been for anything is not solid evidence. Zyklon B was a delousing agent, and the gas chambers would have never worked as designed nor were they known about until well after the fact (conveniently). You know how they could have killed them? Stopped feeding them. But instead they had all these fanciful stories which were cooked up after the fact and "witnesses" who only confessed after torture. You know who did not "witness" it? Anyone who was writing diaries at the time (not to conjure up the image of Ann Franks diary which was proven to have been written by her father after the fact as well). Hollywood, the education system, and various governments who made it illegal to question this event (hmm) really did a number
You know, it only took seconds to find evidence that debunks your fantasy. https://www.livescience.com/44443-treblinka-archaeological-excavation.html What are you going to do? Declare this is all a stage play?