A question for everyone that says read or study the Bible. The Bible was corrupted by men and the church....some parts and sections have been hidden, some changed. To trust that we, meaning ordinary people living ordinary lives vs those in highest levels of the church (Vatican) have the complete Bible is not believable. Why do you think the Bible is complete when the Vatican has secrets and hidden areas?
Because we have lots of physical evidence and proof. You can go to websites to see original manuscripts. In the caves of Kumran in the 1950s original manuscripts were just found, with a COMPLETE scroll of Isaiah, which foretells Jesus. This means that God and Jesus are real, and Jesus tells us to follow the scriptures. Now if there is still some corruption pray about it. Because remember, God is real and He will Lead us to Him if we want to be with Him. Honestly the biblical documents are some of the most well kept artifacts to this day. Do some research and you will see that the Bible as it is today is not corrupted. Find biblical scholars and ask them questions.
God is real. That I believe. This site allows us to seek truth via efforts of the many researchers... don't think ordinary reading of the published 'Bible' is enlightening as it may not be accurate anymore. Look at what's been done to history books when they've been republished.
I understand where you’re coming from, but the Bible is very well in tact. You can do research on this. We have full early manuscripts of Greek and Hebrew texts. Find a biblical scholar and send them an email. It is their mission as a Christian to help spread the truth, so they will be happy to help if they have time. Here is a good article to read, too: https://crossexamined.org/is-the-new-testament-reliable-erhman-refutes-ehrman/
The Bible has been preserved with amazing accuracy throughout the millennia’s. This fact is supported by more evidence than any other book from ancient antiquity.
I understand your concern and I share a lot of sympathy with it. Removing the apocrypha from the Bible as a notion to help "clarify and omit "fake news " as was the final product of the KJV and all of its iterations since has not been the best for mankind. But at the same time, knowing more isn't necessarily going to get a net positive out of a majorly uneducated society. Of course I know the true intention wasn't to make it easier to understand, but the scholars involved weren't all out for that negative agenda. I guess you could consider me a Christian metaphysicist, at most an amateur one, but I would say to your comments in this thread that you are on the right track of attempting to understand why the old testament and new testament are so vastly different and being a critic isn't always a bad thing or to be shunned, hell look at this entire movement and how it works. And you are validated in your criticism of organized religion, but it favors you to distinguish the institution of religion of which is corrupted to an extent to the fellowship of faith, which Jesus wanted for us, and you have already highlighted on this as I edit this comment reading your others. Stick with that. If you at least know the path, you are already doing well. It's going down that path to the "source" is where most won't go, but I think it's our duty as Gods children to do so. I think maybe reforming some of your questions slightly may help, but as you know this is your path and agreeing or disagreeing isn't the point, you are rightly concerned.
A question for everyone that says read or study the Bible. The Bible was corrupted by men and the church....some parts and sections have been hidden, some changed. To trust that we, meaning ordinary people living ordinary lives vs those in highest levels of the church (Vatican) have the complete Bible is not believable. Why do you think the Bible is complete when the Vatican has secrets and hidden areas?
Because we have lots of physical evidence and proof. You can go to websites to see original manuscripts. In the caves of Kumran in the 1950s original manuscripts were just found, with a COMPLETE scroll of Isaiah, which foretells Jesus. This means that God and Jesus are real, and Jesus tells us to follow the scriptures. Now if there is still some corruption pray about it. Because remember, God is real and He will Lead us to Him if we want to be with Him. Honestly the biblical documents are some of the most well kept artifacts to this day. Do some research and you will see that the Bible as it is today is not corrupted. Find biblical scholars and ask them questions.
God is real. That I believe. This site allows us to seek truth via efforts of the many researchers... don't think ordinary reading of the published 'Bible' is enlightening as it may not be accurate anymore. Look at what's been done to history books when they've been republished.
I understand where you’re coming from, but the Bible is very well in tact. You can do research on this. We have full early manuscripts of Greek and Hebrew texts. Find a biblical scholar and send them an email. It is their mission as a Christian to help spread the truth, so they will be happy to help if they have time. Here is a good article to read, too: https://crossexamined.org/is-the-new-testament-reliable-erhman-refutes-ehrman/
The Bible has been preserved with amazing accuracy throughout the millennia’s. This fact is supported by more evidence than any other book from ancient antiquity.
You are so wrong about a lot of this, I’ll pray for you. The Catholic Church is bad, correct. But the Bible is real and true.
I understand your concern and I share a lot of sympathy with it. Removing the apocrypha from the Bible as a notion to help "clarify and omit "fake news " as was the final product of the KJV and all of its iterations since has not been the best for mankind. But at the same time, knowing more isn't necessarily going to get a net positive out of a majorly uneducated society. Of course I know the true intention wasn't to make it easier to understand, but the scholars involved weren't all out for that negative agenda. I guess you could consider me a Christian metaphysicist, at most an amateur one, but I would say to your comments in this thread that you are on the right track of attempting to understand why the old testament and new testament are so vastly different and being a critic isn't always a bad thing or to be shunned, hell look at this entire movement and how it works. And you are validated in your criticism of organized religion, but it favors you to distinguish the institution of religion of which is corrupted to an extent to the fellowship of faith, which Jesus wanted for us, and you have already highlighted on this as I edit this comment reading your others. Stick with that. If you at least know the path, you are already doing well. It's going down that path to the "source" is where most won't go, but I think it's our duty as Gods children to do so. I think maybe reforming some of your questions slightly may help, but as you know this is your path and agreeing or disagreeing isn't the point, you are rightly concerned.