Anytime people start questioning the completeness of the Bible or Mainstream Christian Doctrine. It’s 50/50 odds The comments turn into an entertaining shit show of arguments.
But yes. I’ve been delving into ancient texts a time or two. Anyone who truly seeks to understand History. Should make at least an attempt. Whether you believe in the information therein or not. There is still things to learn and gain from ancient texts and schools of thought.
Some people think that’s why the Catholic Church and many European Nobles tried to wipe out the Templars. The Knights found something in the Holy Land that the Church and many Kings and leaders at the time would have preferred remained buried. And the debt was a pretext and cover.
It’s not that being open to the concept that the Bible is incomplete or altered is unfounded.
See: “Thou shalt not kill.” Vs. “Thou shalt not commit murder.” Very, very, very important difference. “Thou shalt not commit murder.” has further expoundings on exactly what constitutes murder, and when it is justifiable to kill, and what should be done in different situations - which clearly confirms that killing is allowed in specific circumstances, but the church won’t teach them or acknowledge those scriptures.
It’s that random claims on the internet aren’t good enough to overturn what we can be fairly sure is accurate to at least 200 years or so, very likely much farther, and very few people are going to have the means to TRULY test them.
It’s also much easier to delve into what’s actually there and see if anything has been taught incorrectly. This has definitely happened, without question. Look no further than the recent Methodist schism for a very clear current example.
My biggest problem with gnostics is that they’re VERY big on claims, WILD claims, and almost never provide even halfway decent sauce. Being open to course corrections is one thing, but it would also take a fool to change their entire worldview without very evidence and ponderance.
Random claims from the internet sure. But a surviving translation from scrolls that predate the adoption of Christanity into the roman empire and new testiment in general? just complaring the gospels after so long its like the telephone game kids used to play, except people left out a bunch of stuff they didn't want imo. We will probably never know the full truth but i think we can paint a pretty good summary picture.
The comments here should be interesting.
Anytime people start questioning the completeness of the Bible or Mainstream Christian Doctrine. It’s 50/50 odds The comments turn into an entertaining shit show of arguments.
But yes. I’ve been delving into ancient texts a time or two. Anyone who truly seeks to understand History. Should make at least an attempt. Whether you believe in the information therein or not. There is still things to learn and gain from ancient texts and schools of thought.
Some people think that’s why the Catholic Church and many European Nobles tried to wipe out the Templars. The Knights found something in the Holy Land that the Church and many Kings and leaders at the time would have preferred remained buried. And the debt was a pretext and cover.
It’s not that being open to the concept that the Bible is incomplete or altered is unfounded. See: “Thou shalt not kill.” Vs. “Thou shalt not commit murder.” Very, very, very important difference. “Thou shalt not commit murder.” has further expoundings on exactly what constitutes murder, and when it is justifiable to kill, and what should be done in different situations - which clearly confirms that killing is allowed in specific circumstances, but the church won’t teach them or acknowledge those scriptures.
It’s that random claims on the internet aren’t good enough to overturn what we can be fairly sure is accurate to at least 200 years or so, very likely much farther, and very few people are going to have the means to TRULY test them.
It’s also much easier to delve into what’s actually there and see if anything has been taught incorrectly. This has definitely happened, without question. Look no further than the recent Methodist schism for a very clear current example.
My biggest problem with gnostics is that they’re VERY big on claims, WILD claims, and almost never provide even halfway decent sauce. Being open to course corrections is one thing, but it would also take a fool to change their entire worldview without very evidence and ponderance.
Random claims from the internet sure. But a surviving translation from scrolls that predate the adoption of Christanity into the roman empire and new testiment in general? just complaring the gospels after so long its like the telephone game kids used to play, except people left out a bunch of stuff they didn't want imo. We will probably never know the full truth but i think we can paint a pretty good summary picture.
That's how religion works. That's why there's no way to tell which, if any, version is true.
Oh, my. What have you done?!
Looks like a poorly proofread edit :-)
I reserve the right to edit my own wordings if I decide, on my own, that there is a more correct, accurate, or better way to put something.
If I did that because of someone else, I’d note it. Manners and whatnot.