I personally think some of the comments on this site can get pretty ridiculous at times, more importantly, they can utterly obliterate an otherwise important message. However, you know what is said about opinions and how they are like a particular body part (everybody’s got one, and they all stink). The thing I have seen that truly ruins credibility is when atheists/agnostics/whatever pontificate about the Bible, yet they don’t believe in it in the first place.
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I completely disagree.
For example, I grew up in church, went my entire life until a few years ago.
And I studied HARDCORE when it came to eschatology. I could literally write books. I have a very firm grasp of every position held, from the Tim Layhaye brand of pre-trib rapture, to mid and post trib rapture, to preterism, the list goes on.
After studying my entire life, and finding major faults and contradictions with most versions of eschatology, I started to study historical spiritual symbolism.
Then everything clicked into place. Suddenly, all the symbolism unlocked the spiritual truths, vs the literal insanity that is preached at the pulpit.
So, that said, I dont believe in the bible in the traditional sense. I believe it in a spiritually significant sense.
But.... because I went through the gamut of study, I fully understand the current insanity as it is attributed to the bible. And I also understand WHY it is happening this way, despite my personal beliefs. I wont get into WHY, because I dont want to offend frens here, as this is a sensitive topic.
Actually, there are TWO potential WHYS. And one is benign, and the other is not.
So, I am really hoping "Timeline A" is the actual reason why this is happening the way it is, and not "Timeline B" so to speak.
I think the Bible is literally true, just not physically true. Symbols and metaphors, exist, right? They're just not physical.
If I tell you to picture an elephant, you can literally see an elephant. You just don't see it in the physical world. You see it in the spiritual world.
What happens in the physical world are instantiations of true spiritual happenings.
Imagining an elephant is not a Spiritual endeavor. You're a little clumsy with your language there.
God's thoughts come to pass. Ours? Not so much. It's a theme in sci-fi, and usually it's pretty horrible.
Spiritual endeavors are thinking, feeling and willing. Do the images that you imagine not exist? How can you see an elephant through your imagination if the image of an elephant does not exist?
Why did Jesus equate imaginings with physical doings?
Obviously something is happening when you imagine otherwise the term would be meaningless. It's just not physical.
When you were dreaming last night, was there really a dream? If not then how can you say you dreamt?
Disagreed. The realm of the Spirit is MUCH more than just that! "Heaven is above earth."
Imagination is an important aspect of our being.