Well, I will have to search back. If I'm wrong, apologies. I don't think so though -- I was right about McCarthy, despite the attacks I suffered for saying so.

Sorry, I think I was wrong. I think I was soured because you hold/held a belief that McCarthy was controlled as part of the plan, and merged that in with other feelings I had about other users. Many of your posts are actually upvoted by me, even.

I still disagree that he is a white hat person, and there's no way to prove one way or another, but only his actions to look towards.

When you look at things from a "40K foot view", you tend to miss things.

I disagree with certain outcomes, and I disagree with certain theories people come up with here that end up being either unproven or proven wrong.

I trust in the proofs we have, not the proofs people wish they see.

As for Jordan, if he manages to make it through I will inevitably shut up about it and start watching. But people have to be told "I told you so" so that they stop repeating the same mistakes. That's supposed to be part of the great awakening; to learn from mistakes instead of repeating them. That's the whole point with "they must be shown".

But you've been consistent, as you have been in support of Jim Jordan from the speaker votes last time so I applaud that consistency even if I disagree with you.