Huh, it was my understanding he chose to drop out after the results of the secret ballot, which was a temperature-getting, confidence vote and not a binding resolution or anything. Could be wrong.
You may be right about that. I guess my understanding from reading the article is that the republicans held a secret vote to demonstrate how strong their support was for JJ, only to find out 112, when voting secretly, were actually against him.
It might just be semantics, either way, it seems he is out for now. But, he has been "out" 3 or 4 times now so who the heck knows? 🤦🏻♂️
Correct! And seeing that level of support, or lack thereof, caused Jim Jordan to step down. He wasn't forced out by the vote procedurally, but socially.
The secret ballot allowing people to vote without reprisal is why we probably won't see the plot twist of Speaker Trump.
But also, you make a good point - less than a week in, those who want JJ to go are standing fairly firm. But the same people who don't want him are mostly the same people who get really worried about Congress not accomplishing anything, especially military spending for empire maintenance projects. Whereas the 8 above and allies are absolutely peachy keen fine to just sit around and NOT give Warhawk Biden his murder allowance this time.
Of course, there's still the Senate, but I start to get hazy on just how much can be done without the House at all. These kinds of scenarios weren't really covered too thoroughly back in high school.
IIRC, the house is needed for any and all budgetary matters, as you are pointing out with the military spending.
The Senate is required to approve federal judges.
They both do much more than that, but without the house, the government is effectively shut down when it comes to spending money. Many people are okay with this right now.
Speaking of the secret ballot...
The ballot is secret to us. But it isn't secret to whoever counted the votes. It sure would be interesting if that person passed on the list of RINOs to, I don't know, maybe Trump? kek
Huh, it was my understanding he chose to drop out after the results of the secret ballot, which was a temperature-getting, confidence vote and not a binding resolution or anything. Could be wrong.
You may be right about that. I guess my understanding from reading the article is that the republicans held a secret vote to demonstrate how strong their support was for JJ, only to find out 112, when voting secretly, were actually against him.
It might just be semantics, either way, it seems he is out for now. But, he has been "out" 3 or 4 times now so who the heck knows? 🤦🏻♂️
Correct! And seeing that level of support, or lack thereof, caused Jim Jordan to step down. He wasn't forced out by the vote procedurally, but socially.
The secret ballot allowing people to vote without reprisal is why we probably won't see the plot twist of Speaker Trump.
But also, you make a good point - less than a week in, those who want JJ to go are standing fairly firm. But the same people who don't want him are mostly the same people who get really worried about Congress not accomplishing anything, especially military spending for empire maintenance projects. Whereas the 8 above and allies are absolutely peachy keen fine to just sit around and NOT give Warhawk Biden his murder allowance this time.
Of course, there's still the Senate, but I start to get hazy on just how much can be done without the House at all. These kinds of scenarios weren't really covered too thoroughly back in high school.
IIRC, the house is needed for any and all budgetary matters, as you are pointing out with the military spending.
The Senate is required to approve federal judges.
They both do much more than that, but without the house, the government is effectively shut down when it comes to spending money. Many people are okay with this right now.
Speaking of the secret ballot...
The ballot is secret to us. But it isn't secret to whoever counted the votes. It sure would be interesting if that person passed on the list of RINOs to, I don't know, maybe Trump? kek