Pope Francis Fires Bishop For Being Too Catholic
(babylonbee.com)
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What Christ said does matter, which is why early Christians like Cyprian and Origen take the exact same Scripture and give an interpretation completely contrary to some random guy on the internet.
Cyprian (200 years from Christ) & Origen (200 years from Christ) >>> some random guy (2000 years from Christ)
You're contradicting yourself. If what Christ said mattered to you, you would take his word for it that he is the rock the church is founded on like he said. There's no other way to interpret that unless you're Satan. Instead you prefer the opinion of a sinner you do not know. Peak Catholicism.
Citing Origen doesn't help your case nearly as much as you think it does.
He was a blatant heretic who fabricated a bunch of nonsense that has no biblical support whatsoever, such as the preexistence of souls and universal salvation. His entire life's work boiled down to trying to force Christian teachings into the mold of pagan Greek philosophy.
I don't trust Origen to interpret scripture for the same reason that I don't trust Arius or Mohamed. How far removed one is from the time of Christ has no bearing on the accuracy of one's reading of Christ's words.
the fact that origen was a heretic only strengthens the case because even a heretic understood that Peter is the Rock. there is no other interpretation of Mt.16. I could cite 40 other Church Fathers who were not heretics but legit saints.
Uh, no, that's not how that works. That it no way eliminates the possibility that Peter being the Rock is just a heretical doctrine.
And I cited scripture. Church fathers, no matter how numerous, are not scripture. Once again, you illustrate the core problem with the RCC by building your doctrine on the traditions of men rather than the Word of God.
"and i cited scripture" ... "rather than the Word of God."
cool story.