Anyone who thinks they're saving the Earth by driving one of these is a fucking idiot. I don't care what their argument for driving one is, there are 100 times as many arguments to not drive one.
some people i know got a tesla just because it is "the best car on the market, and the most technologically advanced. so they should be at the cutting edge and own one"... they don't care about the environmental argument
You don't do this same list for ICEs. Look. I'm not an eco warrior. I'm a Personal Freedom Maximalist. Solar power and an EV check a box on that list for me. I want to rely on as little as possible. I own my home. I own land. I am self-employed. I'm financially independent. All of these add up to Freedom in my mind.
No, but I can fill my tank up in under 5 minutes, on a cloudy day or at night, and be on my merry way.
I read through some other freedom/off-grid statements below, and I get what you're saying. But as I said in my statement, the people who think they are saving the planet by driving one, are idiots. The mass raping of the earth, just to mine the materials to build these batteries, is horrendous, not to mention the 3rd world child labor shit-show. And I know I don't ever want to be around one, if something ever happens to those batteries - once they're compromised, and that chain reaction starts, it's going to burn until all those chemicals are consumed. They can't be extinguished with anything currently being carried around on fire trucks. I seriously hope none of you are in the thing if that ever happens, and you can't get the doors unlocked.
Ultimately, I don't think lithium ion batteries are the way to get away from burning gasoline. I seriously think HHO (separating hydrogen/oxygen from water) is the way to go, if it can be perfected, or improved upon, to where it's a lot more efficient in terms of energy being put into it vs what being generated. I can't remember the guy's name, but I believe he had it worked out in the '70s before they killed him.
If you and the others here, enjoy driving one, and you don't mind the charging time and risks involved, more power to you. You've spent your money as you saw fit, and that's the way it should be.
Anyone who thinks they're saving the Earth by driving one of these is a fucking idiot. I don't care what their argument for driving one is, there are 100 times as many arguments to not drive one.
the only reason I can see for having one is for someone that absolutely hates going to gasoline stations.
some people i know got a tesla just because it is "the best car on the market, and the most technologically advanced. so they should be at the cutting edge and own one"... they don't care about the environmental argument
I charge mine entirely off solar. Can your gas guzzler do that?
cobalt mines
lithium mines
battery disposal
solar cell disposal
wind blade disposal (dead bird disposal)
explosive battery fires
90 minute charging on fast charge
limited driving range
grid overload
faster tire and road wear
limited life span
EVs are not a solution ---- they are a list of problems
You don't do this same list for ICEs. Look. I'm not an eco warrior. I'm a Personal Freedom Maximalist. Solar power and an EV check a box on that list for me. I want to rely on as little as possible. I own my home. I own land. I am self-employed. I'm financially independent. All of these add up to Freedom in my mind.
So are ICE cars.
No, but I can fill my tank up in under 5 minutes, on a cloudy day or at night, and be on my merry way.
I read through some other freedom/off-grid statements below, and I get what you're saying. But as I said in my statement, the people who think they are saving the planet by driving one, are idiots. The mass raping of the earth, just to mine the materials to build these batteries, is horrendous, not to mention the 3rd world child labor shit-show. And I know I don't ever want to be around one, if something ever happens to those batteries - once they're compromised, and that chain reaction starts, it's going to burn until all those chemicals are consumed. They can't be extinguished with anything currently being carried around on fire trucks. I seriously hope none of you are in the thing if that ever happens, and you can't get the doors unlocked.
Ultimately, I don't think lithium ion batteries are the way to get away from burning gasoline. I seriously think HHO (separating hydrogen/oxygen from water) is the way to go, if it can be perfected, or improved upon, to where it's a lot more efficient in terms of energy being put into it vs what being generated. I can't remember the guy's name, but I believe he had it worked out in the '70s before they killed him.
If you and the others here, enjoy driving one, and you don't mind the charging time and risks involved, more power to you. You've spent your money as you saw fit, and that's the way it should be.
Rolling off the lot ---- an EV has a higher carbon footprint than gas.
get back to us when it is time to change that battery please.
Most current model batteries have a life of 300k-400k miles. Get back to me when you have to replace your engine for the same price.
This. People don't understand the freedom having a EV and Solar gives you.
The Amish have vehicles that run off of grass.
kek. That's a little TOO off-grid even for me ;)