the CDC can't mandate, as it has no real power to do so. The CDC is a PRIVATE organization that is funded by the Government to push paid pseudo-health to enact an objective. It is a "suggested course of action body" to the Government only, nothing more.
Mandates cannot be given to a private citizen that has not been convicted, by a judge, of a felony offense, as a general rule. Mandates from a judge will pertain to the felony only.
A Mandate CAN be given to a State or Government employee, but must come from an authority given power to do so; e.g. A city mayor giving mandate to city government workers. It does NOT extend to private citizens of said city and cannot, legally, be enforced to do so. Same applies to Governor of a state to state government employees, but not the citizens thereof.
Finally, NO ONE can mandate, no matter the source, a person to inject themselves with a known poison/biohazard under any form of threat, coercion, or action, under penalty of Law under 18 USC 242.
The sources for the above can be found in Law Dictionaries and Government regulation/Rules/Law.
These MFers get thier perceived power out of the ignorance of the governed. Just say no.
These MFers get thier perceived power out of the ignorance of the governed. Just say no.
The CDC made the recommendation. The executive branch is acting on that recommendation and are refusing to grant a visa.
The only option is to keep saying no and continue to get denied. I've talked to three different lawyers so far who have given me the opinion that fighting this would take years and boat loads of cash.
To my understanding what I can do is continue to point out that these mandates are being treated with the force of law to draw enough attention to them to get them removed.
Understand completely. When all else fails (including those lawyers), revert to 18 USC 242. If you haven't read it, it's a powerful piece. Teach those lawyers something 😉
(a) Classes of aliens ineligible for visas or admission
Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States:
(1) Health-related grounds
(A) In general
Any alien-
(ii) except as provided in subparagraph (C), who seeks admission as an immigrant, or who seeks adjustment of status to the status of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, and who has failed to present documentation of having received vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases, which shall include at least the following diseases: mumps, measles, rubella, polio, tetanus and diphtheria toxoids, pertussis, influenza type B and hepatitis B, and any other vaccinations against vaccine-preventable diseases recommended by the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices,
This is the reason the embassy gave me. The lawyers said the lower courts were likely to side with the government with how the law is written. Any constitutional arguments would need to happen on appeal.
They said the process would be too long and expensive to be worth it. I might as well give up, live in Mexico and "wait for Trump".
What about other kinds of tyranny? Like vaccine mandates in 2024. Still... https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/panel-physicians/vaccinations.html#covid-19-vaccination
Trump vocally opposed vaccine mandates.
Yeah, that's why at minimum he can remove it when he gets back.
A few things:
the CDC can't mandate, as it has no real power to do so. The CDC is a PRIVATE organization that is funded by the Government to push paid pseudo-health to enact an objective. It is a "suggested course of action body" to the Government only, nothing more.
Mandates cannot be given to a private citizen that has not been convicted, by a judge, of a felony offense, as a general rule. Mandates from a judge will pertain to the felony only.
A Mandate CAN be given to a State or Government employee, but must come from an authority given power to do so; e.g. A city mayor giving mandate to city government workers. It does NOT extend to private citizens of said city and cannot, legally, be enforced to do so. Same applies to Governor of a state to state government employees, but not the citizens thereof.
Finally, NO ONE can mandate, no matter the source, a person to inject themselves with a known poison/biohazard under any form of threat, coercion, or action, under penalty of Law under 18 USC 242.
The sources for the above can be found in Law Dictionaries and Government regulation/Rules/Law.
These MFers get thier perceived power out of the ignorance of the governed. Just say no.
The CDC made the recommendation. The executive branch is acting on that recommendation and are refusing to grant a visa.
The only option is to keep saying no and continue to get denied. I've talked to three different lawyers so far who have given me the opinion that fighting this would take years and boat loads of cash.
To my understanding what I can do is continue to point out that these mandates are being treated with the force of law to draw enough attention to them to get them removed.
Understand completely. When all else fails (including those lawyers), revert to 18 USC 242. If you haven't read it, it's a powerful piece. Teach those lawyers something 😉
I think they're aware of it.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1182&num=0&edition=prelim
This is the reason the embassy gave me. The lawyers said the lower courts were likely to side with the government with how the law is written. Any constitutional arguments would need to happen on appeal.
They said the process would be too long and expensive to be worth it. I might as well give up, live in Mexico and "wait for Trump".