Welcome to General Chat - GAW Community Area
This General Chat area started off as a place for people to talk about things that are off topic, however it has quickly evolved into a community and has become an integral part of the GAW experience for many of us.
Based on its evolving needs and plenty of user feedback, we are trying to bring some order and institute some rules. Please make sure you read these rules and participate in the spirit of this community.
Rules for General Chat
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Be respectful to each other. This is of utmost importance, and comments may be removed if deemed not respectful.
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Feel free to give feedback as these rules are expected to keep evoloving
In short, imagine this thread to be a local community hall where we all gather and chat daily. Please be respectful to others in the same way
Well, I thought you were offering to prove that you’re not being paid money to spread a certain message, but it seems that’s not what you intended. If you want to prove that you’re trying to be honest, that’s ok, don’t worry about it. The phenomenal thing about a rationalization is that the rationalizer can believe it’s the truth. No thanks on the chat. Best of luck to you.
No that’s specifically what I was offering. It was a way to show my honesty and in turn help prove what I’m saying. If you’d like I can show my bank records, but normally people don’t have a way that the other person can disprove it. It’s an easy claim to make as a way to disregard the other’s stance
But yeah, that’s normally how people react. You can have an honest discussion without resorting to some petty “shill” call. Why is it so hard to believe that I'm being sincere?
Shilling doesn’t necessarily have to be insincere. A shill might truly believe in the product he’s promoting. The connotation of insincerity comes from the old snake oil tactic of covertly inserting an associate into the crowd to interject his seemingly impartial testimony about the snake oil. That’s not the situation as much nowadays. Kelce might be dumb enough to think truly that Pfizer’s mRNA product is good. He’s still a shill.
If it helps, I’ll apologize for having you think I was accusing you of being insincere. I’ll make a deal with you. Let me first define the shorthand “actual mRNA” as being an mRNA gene editing product that was manufactured as intended, and from production to injection was kept at the right temperature and otherwise maintained and administered properly. So if you’re open minded that seemingly vaxxed people with no adverse effects might not have gotten “actual mRNA”, then I’ll be open minded about the possibility that someone who took “actual mRNA” might not have suffered adverse effects. Like you said, it’s hard to tell who got what. People have different bodies that react differently or that might not react at all.
I’ll maintain that it’s still not a “good” product because it carries risk with no reward, and the best a user can hope for is a neutral effect such as nothing happening.
What reason do I have to believe that placebos were given, beyond “it’s possible that it happened”?
Like, I get that it could happen, but what reasoning is there to believe that it did?
Six people injected with saline instead of COVID-19 vaccine at Niagara clinic
I have an image of a compilation of headlines like this one that I saved and texted to people, but I had trouble pasting it here. Here’s just one of them. I can dig up more.
You should’ve been aware of the reports of saline placebos.