OK. I pretty much pray about everything. I will pray that I have a better understanding of your point of view.
btw, here's a quote from the link...
In-vitro fertilization is the process of joining a sperm and egg together outside of a woman’s body, then placing the fertilized egg, or zygote, in the woman’s body so that she can become pregnant. In-vitro fertilization is a controversial issue among Christians, and the Bible does not address it. Therefore, it becomes a matter of conviction from the Holy Spirit.
Sharing just in case some may have missed that part.
Just adding one more thing I found worth sharing... What did Jesus say about sin?
That article is absolute bullshit.
The article is SIDESTEPPING the issue. It is talking about what Jesus said about PRACTICING sin. It does NOT say anything about WHAT sin actually IS. Later in the article (which I will address), the author SPECULATES WITH HIS OWN DEFINITION of what sin is.
But we can ignore his blather, because we are TOLD -- in the Bible -- what sin actually IS at 1 John 3:4 --
sin is the transgression of the law.
Neither the writer of the article nor you local pastor will tell you this.
The "Jews" were NOT the people Jesus was talking to MOST of the time in the New Testament. Sometimes, yes. But not MOST of the time.
Of the 12 disciples, only Judas was a jew (specifically, an Edomite jew). Jews today admit that they are Edomites (in part).
Edomites were NOT Israelites. Jesus was an Israelite, NOT a jew.
And Jesus TOLD us what his PURPOSE in coming to Earth was. We do not have to "guess" or "speculate."
Read through Matthew, Chapter 13, and THINK about what it is telling us.
I realize that your local denominal church will NOT tell you all of this, but this is what the Bible actually SAYS -- especially when you unravel all the false translations and get back to the original meaning as written in Hebrew and Greek.
Matthew 13:1-2 --
The same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side.
And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
The "multitudes" were ALL the people of the region who came to hear him speak. This included his Israelite disciples, as well as jews, and others.
Matthew 13:3 --
And he spake many things unto them in parables
When he spoke to the MULTIUDES, he would HIDE the full meaning of what he was saying, because only HIS people could understand him, and he did not want those who were NOT his people to fully understand what he was saying. So, he spoke in PARABLES to the multitudes.
ALWAYS.
Later, at Matthew 13:10 --
And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
You see? The disciples where AMONG the multitudes, but OTHERS were also there when he was speaking in parables. Later, the disciples were alone with him and asked why he spoke in parables.
BTW, did your local church -- or any church you have EVER attended or seen on TV or video -- EVER tell you or talk about any of this.
No. I bet not. And ... WHY not?
Because, like the medical schools who do not teach doctors about health, today's seminaries also do not teach preachers about the Bible. They teach them from the very beginning of seminary school that "we can't fully understand the Bible," so just go with the church doctrines when you preach.
But many of the church doctrines are ... WRONG.
Continuing ...
He said at Matthew 13:11 --
He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Jesus wanted his Israelite people to understand his message, but no one else.
Matthew 13:13 --
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Matthew 13:34 --
All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them
Jesus ONLY spoke to the multitudes in parables, but to his disciples he revealed the core truth.
A VERY important verse is at Matthew 13:35 --
I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
What is the "foundation of the world?" It goes back to the beginning, which is Genesis 1:1 and forward from there. IOW, Jesus is saying that that there are some things that were NOT revealed in the works of the Old Testament.
He came to reveal these truths.
This is why one cannot understand the Old Testament without also understanding the New Testament, for context.
The jews are NOT the Israelites of the Bible, which the article you cites claims (or implies).
Jews have ALWAYS followed the Tradition of the Elders, which are jews who claim that they are smarter than God, and therefore do not have to follow The Law (Mosaic Law).
Jews flat out REJECT the New Testament, which is why they do not understand the Bible.
In fact, their Talmud (a continuation of the Tradition of the Elders) is their attempt to get around The Law with all of their filthy garbage they spew about the Bible and Jesus.
Jews HATE Christianity.
That is because they are NOT the Israelites. They are the adversaries of the Israelites and Christ, who was an Israelite. We know who he was because the geneology of he Bible TELLS us.
Adam begat Seth, who begat a son, who begat a son, etc. down through to Noah. Noah begat Shem, who begat a son, etc. down to Abraham, Issac, and Jacob/Israel. Israel's 12 sons were the patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel, one of whom was Judah. We can then go to the New Testament to see that Judah begat a son, etc. down to the Virgin Mary (both Matthew and Luke document this via different geneology pathways to her husband and father), and Jesus was her son.
So, Jesus was an Israelite, and NOT a jew.
THIS is the main reason WHY so much of today's denominational church doctrine goes AGAINST what the Bible ACTUALLY says in its ORIGINAL sctipture. Today's modern English versions have thousands of mistranslations, which have changed the meanings of many important things, such as who the jews really were. And who the Isarelites really were.
Contrast what your article says with the dialogue in Matthew 15:1-3 -
Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
Most of the scribes and Pharisees were ancestors to modern day jews.
Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Here, jews are challenging Jesus for his disciples NOT following the Tradition of the Elders. And Jesus responds with --
But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
So, the jews were the ones who were NOT following The Law of God.
At Matthew 15:22, a woman from Canaan (NOT an Israelite) asked Jesus for help --
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
He ignored her, and he spoke to his disciples 15:23 --
But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
At Matthew 15:24 --
I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Jesus ONLY came to Earth for the Israelite people (who were NOT jews).
This false idea that the Israelites were jews has turned modern Christianity upside down. Christianity was infiltrated early on, about 1700 years ago, but even then, most Christians still understood the truth. It was only about 100-150 years ago when the jews really got a foothold to make Christians believe false ideas and getting all the false transations of the Bible into all the modern versions.
But we can go back to the original Hebrew and Greek to find out what the words in those original languages actually meant. We can also use the discoveries in archeology over the past 150 years to reveal what has been found in the digs around Palestine, as well as the remaining historical records of historians who lived at the time of Jesus.
Suffice it to say, Jesus was an Israelite (not a jew) and came to reveal secrets to the Israelites (not the jews) about things that had not been revealed in the books of the Old Testament.
This is also why the books of the Apocrypha were removed from the Bible in the 4th century -- to hide some of the truth revealed in those books.
Later, in Matthew 15:25-28, the woman tries again. Only when she acknowledges that she is NOT an Israelite, and understands that Jesus has no obligation to help her, does he actually help her and heal her daughter.
Back to your cited article ...
The writer of your cited article asks a question:
So, should we, today, take care to obey every command of the law of Moses?
And he then answers his own question:
No.
He is probabaly a jew or influenced by false ideas promoted by jews. THIS is what the Tradition of the Elders/Talmud is all about -- how to GET AROUND The Law of God.
He later asks:
So, what is sin?
And answers:
Sin is selfishness and selfishness is sin. I reckon it’s that simple.
Well, he "reckons" wrong.
He IGNORES that the Bible TELLS us what sin IS at 1 John 3:4 --
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Excuse me, but I will take what the Bible SAYS DIRECTLY, over some putz who "reckons" this or that. Why does he IGNORE what the Bible ACTUALLY SAYS?
It's a good question, is it not?
That website, clearly, has been created by someone who does NOT read or understand the actual Bible, but pontificates anyway.
He might actually be purposely trying to deceive his readers. Or maybe he is deceived himself -- a common problem (the blind leading the blind).
He wants people to IGNORE God's Law, and instead focus on some vague concep of "selfishness," which doesn't really mean anything, because it can mean almost anything. It is not defined.
If you read the bio of the man behind the website, it says:
From 2011 to 2016, I studied at Vose Seminary (now part of Morling College) graduating with a Master’s degree in Divinity. My main area of study was the New Testament, specializing in the Gospel of Matthew.
If he specialized in Matthew, then why does he NOT tell you what I told you?
This is the same problem we have with most denominational churches today.
It started 1700 years ago with the Roman Catholic Church claiming that mere mortal men -- popes and bishops -- could demand that everyone believe what THEY say the Bible says, rather than actually understanding the Bible for themselves.
This is why Martin Luther broke away from the RCC. He had good cause.
j]And write unto the Angel of the Church which is of Philadelphia, These things saith he that is Holy, and True, which hath the [k]key of David, which openeth and no man shutteth, and shutteth and no man openeth.
8 [l]I know thy works: behold I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my Name.
9 Behold, I will make them [m]of the Synagogue of Satan, which call themselves Jews, and are not, but do lie: behold, I say, I will make them that they shall come [n]and worship before thy feet, and shall know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast [o]kept the word of my patience, therefore I will deliver thee from the hour of tentation, which will come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come shortly: hold that which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 [p]Him that overcometh, will I make a pillar in the Temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: [q]and I will write upon him the Name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God, and I will write upon him my new Name.
13 Let him that hath an ear, hear what the Spirit saith unto the Churches.
14 [r]And unto the Angel of the Church of the Laodiceans write, These things saith [s]Amen, the faithful and true witness, that [t]beginning of the creatures of God.
15 [u]I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou werest cold or hot.
16 Therefore because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, it will come to pass, that I shall spew thee out of my mouth.
17 For thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing, and knowest not how thou art wretched and miserable, [v]and poor, and blind, and naked.
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried by the fire, that thou mayest be made rich: and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that thy filthy nakedness do not appear: and anoint thine eyes with eye salve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be [w]zealous therefore and amend.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock, [x]If any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in unto him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 [y]To him that overcometh, will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I overcame, and sit with my Father in his throne.
22 Let him that hath an ear, hear what the Spirit saith unto the Churches.
OK. I pretty much pray about everything. I will pray that I have a better understanding of your point of view.
btw, here's a quote from the link...
Sharing just in case some may have missed that part.
Edit.
Just adding one more thing I found worth sharing... What did Jesus say about sin?
And this: The unforgiveable sin – slandering the Holy Spirit.
That article is absolute bullshit.
The article is SIDESTEPPING the issue. It is talking about what Jesus said about PRACTICING sin. It does NOT say anything about WHAT sin actually IS. Later in the article (which I will address), the author SPECULATES WITH HIS OWN DEFINITION of what sin is.
But we can ignore his blather, because we are TOLD -- in the Bible -- what sin actually IS at 1 John 3:4 --
Neither the writer of the article nor you local pastor will tell you this.
The "Jews" were NOT the people Jesus was talking to MOST of the time in the New Testament. Sometimes, yes. But not MOST of the time.
Of the 12 disciples, only Judas was a jew (specifically, an Edomite jew). Jews today admit that they are Edomites (in part).
Edomites were NOT Israelites. Jesus was an Israelite, NOT a jew.
And Jesus TOLD us what his PURPOSE in coming to Earth was. We do not have to "guess" or "speculate."
Read through Matthew, Chapter 13, and THINK about what it is telling us.
I realize that your local denominal church will NOT tell you all of this, but this is what the Bible actually SAYS -- especially when you unravel all the false translations and get back to the original meaning as written in Hebrew and Greek.
Matthew 13:1-2 --
The "multitudes" were ALL the people of the region who came to hear him speak. This included his Israelite disciples, as well as jews, and others.
Matthew 13:3 --
When he spoke to the MULTIUDES, he would HIDE the full meaning of what he was saying, because only HIS people could understand him, and he did not want those who were NOT his people to fully understand what he was saying. So, he spoke in PARABLES to the multitudes.
ALWAYS.
Later, at Matthew 13:10 --
You see? The disciples where AMONG the multitudes, but OTHERS were also there when he was speaking in parables. Later, the disciples were alone with him and asked why he spoke in parables.
BTW, did your local church -- or any church you have EVER attended or seen on TV or video -- EVER tell you or talk about any of this.
No. I bet not. And ... WHY not?
Because, like the medical schools who do not teach doctors about health, today's seminaries also do not teach preachers about the Bible. They teach them from the very beginning of seminary school that "we can't fully understand the Bible," so just go with the church doctrines when you preach.
But many of the church doctrines are ... WRONG.
Continuing ...
He said at Matthew 13:11 --
Jesus wanted his Israelite people to understand his message, but no one else.
Matthew 13:13 --
Matthew 13:34 --
Jesus ONLY spoke to the multitudes in parables, but to his disciples he revealed the core truth.
A VERY important verse is at Matthew 13:35 --
What is the "foundation of the world?" It goes back to the beginning, which is Genesis 1:1 and forward from there. IOW, Jesus is saying that that there are some things that were NOT revealed in the works of the Old Testament.
He came to reveal these truths.
This is why one cannot understand the Old Testament without also understanding the New Testament, for context.
The jews are NOT the Israelites of the Bible, which the article you cites claims (or implies).
Jews have ALWAYS followed the Tradition of the Elders, which are jews who claim that they are smarter than God, and therefore do not have to follow The Law (Mosaic Law).
Jews flat out REJECT the New Testament, which is why they do not understand the Bible.
In fact, their Talmud (a continuation of the Tradition of the Elders) is their attempt to get around The Law with all of their filthy garbage they spew about the Bible and Jesus.
Jews HATE Christianity.
That is because they are NOT the Israelites. They are the adversaries of the Israelites and Christ, who was an Israelite. We know who he was because the geneology of he Bible TELLS us.
Adam begat Seth, who begat a son, who begat a son, etc. down through to Noah. Noah begat Shem, who begat a son, etc. down to Abraham, Issac, and Jacob/Israel. Israel's 12 sons were the patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel, one of whom was Judah. We can then go to the New Testament to see that Judah begat a son, etc. down to the Virgin Mary (both Matthew and Luke document this via different geneology pathways to her husband and father), and Jesus was her son.
So, Jesus was an Israelite, and NOT a jew.
THIS is the main reason WHY so much of today's denominational church doctrine goes AGAINST what the Bible ACTUALLY says in its ORIGINAL sctipture. Today's modern English versions have thousands of mistranslations, which have changed the meanings of many important things, such as who the jews really were. And who the Isarelites really were.
Contrast what your article says with the dialogue in Matthew 15:1-3 -
Most of the scribes and Pharisees were ancestors to modern day jews.
Here, jews are challenging Jesus for his disciples NOT following the Tradition of the Elders. And Jesus responds with --
So, the jews were the ones who were NOT following The Law of God.
At Matthew 15:22, a woman from Canaan (NOT an Israelite) asked Jesus for help --
He ignored her, and he spoke to his disciples 15:23 --
At Matthew 15:24 --
Jesus ONLY came to Earth for the Israelite people (who were NOT jews).
This false idea that the Israelites were jews has turned modern Christianity upside down. Christianity was infiltrated early on, about 1700 years ago, but even then, most Christians still understood the truth. It was only about 100-150 years ago when the jews really got a foothold to make Christians believe false ideas and getting all the false transations of the Bible into all the modern versions.
But we can go back to the original Hebrew and Greek to find out what the words in those original languages actually meant. We can also use the discoveries in archeology over the past 150 years to reveal what has been found in the digs around Palestine, as well as the remaining historical records of historians who lived at the time of Jesus.
Suffice it to say, Jesus was an Israelite (not a jew) and came to reveal secrets to the Israelites (not the jews) about things that had not been revealed in the books of the Old Testament.
This is also why the books of the Apocrypha were removed from the Bible in the 4th century -- to hide some of the truth revealed in those books.
Later, in Matthew 15:25-28, the woman tries again. Only when she acknowledges that she is NOT an Israelite, and understands that Jesus has no obligation to help her, does he actually help her and heal her daughter.
Back to your cited article ...
The writer of your cited article asks a question:
And he then answers his own question:
He is probabaly a jew or influenced by false ideas promoted by jews. THIS is what the Tradition of the Elders/Talmud is all about -- how to GET AROUND The Law of God.
He later asks:
And answers:
Well, he "reckons" wrong.
He IGNORES that the Bible TELLS us what sin IS at 1 John 3:4 --
Excuse me, but I will take what the Bible SAYS DIRECTLY, over some putz who "reckons" this or that. Why does he IGNORE what the Bible ACTUALLY SAYS?
It's a good question, is it not?
That website, clearly, has been created by someone who does NOT read or understand the actual Bible, but pontificates anyway.
He might actually be purposely trying to deceive his readers. Or maybe he is deceived himself -- a common problem (the blind leading the blind).
He wants people to IGNORE God's Law, and instead focus on some vague concep of "selfishness," which doesn't really mean anything, because it can mean almost anything. It is not defined.
If you read the bio of the man behind the website, it says:
If he specialized in Matthew, then why does he NOT tell you what I told you?
This is the same problem we have with most denominational churches today.
It started 1700 years ago with the Roman Catholic Church claiming that mere mortal men -- popes and bishops -- could demand that everyone believe what THEY say the Bible says, rather than actually understanding the Bible for themselves.
This is why Martin Luther broke away from the RCC. He had good cause.
Also ...
Matthew 5:17 --
So, Jesus did not come to destroy or change The Law (Old Testament Law), but to fulfill (keep).
Mr. Oliver, the man behind the website, should KNOW this if he specialized in studying Matthew for 5 years.
j]And write unto the Angel of the Church which is of Philadelphia, These things saith he that is Holy, and True, which hath the [k]key of David, which openeth and no man shutteth, and shutteth and no man openeth.
8 [l]I know thy works: behold I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my Name.
9 Behold, I will make them [m]of the Synagogue of Satan, which call themselves Jews, and are not, but do lie: behold, I say, I will make them that they shall come [n]and worship before thy feet, and shall know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast [o]kept the word of my patience, therefore I will deliver thee from the hour of tentation, which will come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come shortly: hold that which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
12 [p]Him that overcometh, will I make a pillar in the Temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: [q]and I will write upon him the Name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God, and I will write upon him my new Name.
13 Let him that hath an ear, hear what the Spirit saith unto the Churches.
14 [r]And unto the Angel of the Church of the Laodiceans write, These things saith [s]Amen, the faithful and true witness, that [t]beginning of the creatures of God.
15 [u]I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou werest cold or hot.
16 Therefore because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, it will come to pass, that I shall spew thee out of my mouth.
17 For thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing, and knowest not how thou art wretched and miserable, [v]and poor, and blind, and naked.
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried by the fire, that thou mayest be made rich: and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that thy filthy nakedness do not appear: and anoint thine eyes with eye salve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be [w]zealous therefore and amend.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock, [x]If any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in unto him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 [y]To him that overcometh, will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I overcame, and sit with my Father in his throne.
22 Let him that hath an ear, hear what the Spirit saith unto the Churches.
I have to take off for the day, but will respond -- probably tomorrow.
Looks like you or a mod deleted your post.
So, I guess I won't respond.