Fiat is debt slavery. Debt forgiveness is coming. What do you do when 13848 has bankrupted many (most?) of the creditors of the publics debt? Do some people win and some lose? I dont think the Patriots are into choosing winners and losers. If national debts are reset and some of the publics debts also are reset through the elimination of their creditors by 13848, then all debt must be reset.
The EO only blocks the properties of the criminals:
Sec. 2. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security:
It. does not say anything about what happens to this property, but it can be argued that it will become property of the Treasury.
But, the EO says nothing about resetting any debts, what so ever. Essentially this EO will put the entire economy on freeze. This is what I believe the precipice would look like (10 days of darkness? I dont know how long this state will continiue).
However, what happens afterwards, what happens to these debts, are they forgiven? It can be argued that it is up to the people at that point to show their mandate as to what happens.
When 13848 is applied, these debtors will cease to exist in their current form. Their assets may revert to the Treasury but then does the Treasury become the new holder of the debt owed by the people and demand payment? Debt accrued through a fiat debt slavery system thats akin to usury? And if that debt is forgiven what about the debt owed to the very few companies that have not actively engaged in acts forbidden by 13848? They are still engaged in a system of usury even if it doesnt reach the level of forfeiture through 13848.
I cant see the Patriot WHs choosing winners and losers. What happens to one, happens to all. If the fiat dollar is reset to a treasury dollar based on gold and using blockchain, I think the entire financial system gets reset to day 1 and that includes all debt by all parties, public and private. Its the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine. Its fraud vitiates everything.
I played it by the book. I paid mine, my wifes and my kids student loans in full. My house and my properties are all paid for. I have no credit card debt. All my equipment is paid for. I dont even have a car loan, I buy new vehicles with cash. My company uses American Express and that is paid in full every month. My materials bills are paid in full every month. Is a debt reset a bit unfair to me? Yes it is. But its the only way forward to correct a system based on Babylonian money magick and usury.
Their assets may revert to the Treasury but then does the Treasury become the new holder of the debt owed by the people and demand payment?
Yes, it will. And its not about whether the debt was based on debt slavery or not. Everything has to be by the book. Exactly what the EOs say and not a word more or less - thats how it would work.
Perhaps, once people learn the constitution and see that it specifically says what currency is and who can print it, it can be applied and Treasury can simply forgive these debts.
However, I think everything will happen exactly by the book, and crimes that have been left unspecified (and magic money falls under this) will need to be tackled by the free people, making their first informed opinion in millenia.
Here is the dilemna. Those who were irresponsible with debt and bought crap and lived crappy lifestyle will be able to basically write it all off. But those who worked hard and saved up and bought stuff without getting into debt, will now feel like they got the short end of the stick.
Hopefully everyone will realise going forward money itself doesnt have to mean so much and every one can live a decent lifestyle being able to afford all the reasonable stuff.
True. It can't be fair to everyone. But not much in life is fair all the time..... I'm reminded of the Bible verse how some of the workers hired late in the day received the same as some who worked all day.
Going forward that would definitely work. The real question is, what do we do with people who have saddled themselves with extreme debt?
Fiat is debt slavery. Debt forgiveness is coming. What do you do when 13848 has bankrupted many (most?) of the creditors of the publics debt? Do some people win and some lose? I dont think the Patriots are into choosing winners and losers. If national debts are reset and some of the publics debts also are reset through the elimination of their creditors by 13848, then all debt must be reset.
The EO only blocks the properties of the criminals:
It. does not say anything about what happens to this property, but it can be argued that it will become property of the Treasury.
But, the EO says nothing about resetting any debts, what so ever. Essentially this EO will put the entire economy on freeze. This is what I believe the precipice would look like (10 days of darkness? I dont know how long this state will continiue).
However, what happens afterwards, what happens to these debts, are they forgiven? It can be argued that it is up to the people at that point to show their mandate as to what happens.
When 13848 is applied, these debtors will cease to exist in their current form. Their assets may revert to the Treasury but then does the Treasury become the new holder of the debt owed by the people and demand payment? Debt accrued through a fiat debt slavery system thats akin to usury? And if that debt is forgiven what about the debt owed to the very few companies that have not actively engaged in acts forbidden by 13848? They are still engaged in a system of usury even if it doesnt reach the level of forfeiture through 13848.
I cant see the Patriot WHs choosing winners and losers. What happens to one, happens to all. If the fiat dollar is reset to a treasury dollar based on gold and using blockchain, I think the entire financial system gets reset to day 1 and that includes all debt by all parties, public and private. Its the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine. Its fraud vitiates everything.
I played it by the book. I paid mine, my wifes and my kids student loans in full. My house and my properties are all paid for. I have no credit card debt. All my equipment is paid for. I dont even have a car loan, I buy new vehicles with cash. My company uses American Express and that is paid in full every month. My materials bills are paid in full every month. Is a debt reset a bit unfair to me? Yes it is. But its the only way forward to correct a system based on Babylonian money magick and usury.
Yes, it will. And its not about whether the debt was based on debt slavery or not. Everything has to be by the book. Exactly what the EOs say and not a word more or less - thats how it would work.
Perhaps, once people learn the constitution and see that it specifically says what currency is and who can print it, it can be applied and Treasury can simply forgive these debts.
However, I think everything will happen exactly by the book, and crimes that have been left unspecified (and magic money falls under this) will need to be tackled by the free people, making their first informed opinion in millenia.
If we go to a new currency people can pay off the old debt for penny's on the new doller. It wouldn't be in much demand.
Trump can make some kind of deal, he's very good at it.
Here is the dilemna. Those who were irresponsible with debt and bought crap and lived crappy lifestyle will be able to basically write it all off. But those who worked hard and saved up and bought stuff without getting into debt, will now feel like they got the short end of the stick.
Hopefully everyone will realise going forward money itself doesnt have to mean so much and every one can live a decent lifestyle being able to afford all the reasonable stuff.
True. It can't be fair to everyone. But not much in life is fair all the time..... I'm reminded of the Bible verse how some of the workers hired late in the day received the same as some who worked all day.
We just have to do the best we can and move on.
I agree.
Agreed.
Just a thought..
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In French, Cestui que vie means "he who lives." The legal term describes the person who is the beneficiary and has rights to property in an estate.
edit: Aren't Birth certificates technically a bond???