Thank you for a thoughtful response. Much appreciated.
You mention Trump's "repeated mentions" that 'he's shot'. Firstly, as it pertains to my viewpoint on this, I'm mention that I'm a trained linguist (aka have diplomas / degrees in lingustics) and have professional worked in language all my life. So, when i hear something, my first focus is to examine it from a variety of angles, and pin down the exact meaning, if it exists, or any ambiguities, if they exist. (Ambiguities simply mean there may be multiple possible interpretations.)
To be physically, mentally, or emotionally exhausted. :
After two hours in the gym and another hour swimming, I was shot by the time I got home.
I'm already pretty shot from writing essays, and I still have another one to write for tomorrow.
To be in a bad condition or totally destroyed. :
I wish I could have the repairs finished sooner, but I'm afraid your engine's shot.
Between dealing with mounting debt, my four children, and my recent divorce, my nerves are pretty shot at the moment.
To be filmed. :
The surprise independent hit was shot on a budget of less than $100,000.
Of resources, money, etc., to be wasted, spent, or used up. :
I can't believe my entire budget for a week in Las Vegas was shot in the first day!
"is shot" is actually a very common idiom and has been in use for a long time:
So Trump's statement is perfectly explainable in the context it is used. In fact, it makes a LOT of sense in the context it is used.
One might argue "ooh, double meanings - he's secretly telling us. you know, comms", but it's certainly NOT required in order to accept his statement simply as it is. One might say it's ambiguous, but ONLY if Trump is ALSO saying Biden has been shot by firing squad.
So then, there are other questions. WHY would Trump say this i.e. "comms"? For what purpose? During the Q operation, comms had a very clear purpose, and they weren't just for anons. "Comms" is part of how the underbelly of the intel word communicates. But it always has a purpose and reason. So that really requires a clear answer, imo. IF trump is smuggling in some secret message to.... who? Anons? Then WHY? What for? What is the outcome?
I think it's clear that secret comms and hidden meanings are very attractive to some of us. And some of it is real, but not all of it, imo.
Also, you say "repeated" but I only know of one time, possibly two. Do you know of more? I don't follow DJT's speeches all that closely, but even if he said it 5 times,in the absence of any clear reason why I should not, I would interpret him as simply saying, "Joe Biden is kaput! Done. Joe Biden has lost his utility."
Salute corresponding to a funeral:
if Biden was dead, was he then executed just prior to the Jan 20 inauguration, so that he was given a state funeral? WHY would Joe Biden be given a state funeral? Would the WH's let him actually be elected, and then take him out, because "the election was stolen"? Could the ceremony have any other meaning? Symbolic meaning? I don't have clear answers, and I think its interdasting, but so far, it's not something I count as a being clear.
And yet there's nothing wrong with using circumstantial evidence to form a belief.
100% agree. No, 200% agree. But this is really close to my point. If pedes would acknowledge that its a belief, and then approach it as a belief, and recognize it as a belief, then I think, that's OK. But pretending that "my belief is correct and infallible, and obvious" I dunno. I feel like too many pedes don't reflect on what they believe and recognize WHY they believe it. Often, it's for emotionally driven reasons, imo. Not purely logical or empirical.
Also, to be frank, I'm vary wary of disinfo operations targeted at anons and awake people. I see them all around the place, and think they do a lot of damage. When I see people place emotional attachment into certain beliefs, I wonder, what is the benefit? Belief should be tempered and balanced with acknowledged fallibility. "I believe this, but of course I might be wrong" is a good starting point.
I also see a certain 'frenzy" around some narratives, where (in my view,) some people attach to them very strongly, but without a lot of those checks and balances.
Based on a lot of circumstantial evidence, despite the lack of absolute proof that I'd like to have. At some point, there's enough to form an opinion.
Yes, I agree with you here, too.
However, I think it's really important to NOT lose sight of the fact that belief is not equivalent to fact, and opinion is not equivalent to fact, and that as much as possible, we should be open to questioning our choices in belief and opinion, debating them, listening to other arguments, etc.
One example comes to mind: Human driven climate change. There are real, bonafide experts, specialists who know their stuff through and through who present their view on CC and offer a fact-based, evidence based, rigorously developed case why HDCC is a load of bunk. It includes not only the science, but also tangible and reasonable arguments for the WHY and the HOW, too.
So far, I've not see that vis-a-vis the Biden Not Biden arguments. Lots more too it all, obviously. I appreciate the thoughtful reply, and I'm certainly open to hearing WHY you believe what you believe or why you have the opinion you have. That's how we draw closer to truth: listening.
I'm not trying to convince you. But here are a couple bits of info on the mix. There are better and longer compilations of the "he's shot" repetitions, but this is first one I found.
Either way, there's a lot of truth that is purposely absent from MSM. Here on GAW we try to suss out the truth from the incomplete pictures we're shown. Pinning down the reasons for deception is an extra level, requiring more study, beyond just seeing through the lie.
I agree with you about how many anons mistake opinion for fact, but the anons here are generally better at it than YT influencers that make their living with flashy headlines that often lack substance. I personally haven't been bothered by the fake-Biden-advocates' reason-denying extremes, but that might be because I agree with their position anyway.
Not a fan of the conjecture that vp Joe Biden has been executed by firing squad and that the person in the white house (or the white house set) is a fake impostor.
The crowds NOT at the inauguration are easily explained due to Covid. They deliberately changed from previous inaugurations (remember, everyone on Earth was going to die if they got together... sarc)
I don't know about the 21 gun salute.
It seems pretty clear that there were weird things happening, and a lot of evidence pointing towards some form of devolution (which does not mean, however that DJT is CIC. IN fact, if the office of president is devolved, then likewise the authority of CIC is likely to be devolved to. Devolution does NOT necessarily mean DJT is potus or CIC.)
But none of those things I find inspire me to the theory that Joe Biden is dead and an impostor is where he is. I find other more convincing (to me) explanations. Perhaps another point I think of is Real Raw News and how there are clear and obvious disinfo operations pushing the "everyone is executed or at gitmo, and the whole world of public figures are clones/fakes" narratives.
It's strange times, and we may never find out the actual truth. Maybe in 50 years? I think it's important to be OK with not knowing a lot of stuff, for that matter. It takes a based sense of security to recognize that I cannot or do not know everything, and to still be Ok with that. (whereas one core trait of normie cognitive dissonance is a rejection of the idea that what the media tells us isn't the truth, aka that I really don't know the truth.)
I love the compilation of DJT saying he's shot, but then, like I wrote previously, I don't see anything in this other than him saying what he is on the surface, aka that Biden is kaput and has lost his utility. Aka regular and normal meaning of "he is shot".
(In fact, if it were otherwise, he'd really have to say "he's been shot". That would be a whole different kettle of fish.
Also, the oddities. Well, for me, I don't see anything in this to make me go, wow. The quality of the video, the lighting, etc, the angles, there are a LOT of variables there, for me. But perhaps my own biases influence what I see. That's just as possible for me as for others, I guess. Goose and gander and all that.
I find the idea that some public figures got 'fake shots' to be totally plausible, however. I.e. footage and stuff as if they were getting shots, because that's pretty much standard for slimy public figures: Drama put on for the media.
Ah, curious comparison with YT influencers. To my mind, they do not even come close (there is no comparison with most of our GAW pedes.)
I'll tuck the salute inauguration threads away for a closer look later. But yeah, no need to try to convince each other (although I must admit, I try to convince anons to review HOW they look at things, rather than to convince them of MY own conclusions or beliefs. That's pretty useless.
In the meantime, thanks for the thoughtful res, and I'm keep to keep my eyes open.
I expect that DJT has at least one double as well. And, like you, there are plenty of things that I'm perfectly comfortable not knowing. And likely much that I've gotten wrong, even without counting my 100% incorrect record in the datefag category. I hope that most will be revealed publicly with proof, but I'm sure lots won't be.
I think there's a point of convergence in our thinking here. I think it is entirely plausible for a president to hire a body double or two for specific cases,i.e. when assassination might be a danger, and travel or other activity needs to be kept clandestine, etc.
Or that C_A might use masks for a sting operation, where the subject is in contact with the targets for a few hours, or a few times, etc.
But I don't think it is plausible that an actor could be impersonating the President of the USA (or person in that position) all the time, all day, all week, year after year.
Gaetz referred to his adopted as "his helper"? (obvious could never do this in real life, right?)
Gaetz who lost weight is.... magically ... doesn't look like the same person?
Spooky vibe music?
Internet trolls are evidence?
so many red flags on this, I just couldn't listen seriously past 1:50.
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But because it's from you, I sucked up my gut and listened to the end.
Oh, wait? Very soon we're going to find out....!!!???! People we thought we trusted?
I'm pretty sure Q has been talking about the civic leaders, political, business and media leaders who are part of the swamp and who have taught us all our (normie) lives that they are serving us are exposed to be .. .not serving us. Aka people who are normies waking up to realize, dayum, the two parties are ... actually a unaparty! for example.
Not that bingo, hey, Matt Gaetz was executed and the person we see now is a double!!!!
No, this video reeks to high heaven with so many red flags that I give it 0 credence. So many other far better explanations for what is presented (including opinions) than that this is over the target. With apologies, its late and also, To discuss all of those red flags in detail would take a LONG write up.
But maybe that's just me.
I do appreciate the dialog we're having, though. (And apologies about the sarcasm. Sadly, I would categorize this guy's video take as junk, and I have a strong prejudice against junk data, like I do against junk food, and less and less time for it these days. Too much real information out there. )
I realize that the word "shot" can mean, in this instance, he's just not up to the job. Q told us everything has meaning. We were given strong clues that McNoname was executed. Do you think it was one and done? OK they executed McNoname but then stopped. Uh, no. Q was giving us a peek into what was happening behind the scenes. I have no proof, but then, you have no proof they are still alive.
.....you mean apart from their continued presence and action as human beings, viewed via media etc?
With that reasoning, Angel, we have no proof that Q is real, that we aren't being ruled by Aliens and lizard people, and that we aren't living in the Matrix like the movie matrix, or that everything we do NOT see directly in person is even happening, and that we aren't living in the Truman Show.
To say that people right in front of is is "no proof that they are alive" is.... it's silly, sorry. Just plain silly.
We were given strong clues that McNoname was executed.
Exactly. That was solid information given by Q.
Q never said anyone else was executed.
"Do you think it was one and done?" No. But now you are stepping into theorizing and conjecture, building conjecture on conjecture, on conjecture.
Do I have proof perfect that Joe Biden is Joe Biden, or that Elon Musk is Elon Musk, or that Michael Flynn is Michael Flynn? No. But I have a LOT more evidence that they are who they say they are than otherwise.
Hey, choose your beliefs! It's your prerogative. But don't try and pass your belief of as if its fact. Also, interpreting "everything has meaning" to mean "you can just pick and choose whatever fact or thing you like and make your OWN meaning out of it".... I don't think that is what Q was saying.
Thank you for a thoughtful response. Much appreciated.
You mention Trump's "repeated mentions" that 'he's shot'. Firstly, as it pertains to my viewpoint on this, I'm mention that I'm a trained linguist (aka have diplomas / degrees in lingustics) and have professional worked in language all my life. So, when i hear something, my first focus is to examine it from a variety of angles, and pin down the exact meaning, if it exists, or any ambiguities, if they exist. (Ambiguities simply mean there may be multiple possible interpretations.)
So, for example: https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/is+shot
"is shot" is actually a very common idiom and has been in use for a long time:
So Trump's statement is perfectly explainable in the context it is used. In fact, it makes a LOT of sense in the context it is used.
One might argue "ooh, double meanings - he's secretly telling us. you know, comms", but it's certainly NOT required in order to accept his statement simply as it is. One might say it's ambiguous, but ONLY if Trump is ALSO saying Biden has been shot by firing squad.
So then, there are other questions. WHY would Trump say this i.e. "comms"? For what purpose? During the Q operation, comms had a very clear purpose, and they weren't just for anons. "Comms" is part of how the underbelly of the intel word communicates. But it always has a purpose and reason. So that really requires a clear answer, imo. IF trump is smuggling in some secret message to.... who? Anons? Then WHY? What for? What is the outcome?
I think it's clear that secret comms and hidden meanings are very attractive to some of us. And some of it is real, but not all of it, imo.
Also, you say "repeated" but I only know of one time, possibly two. Do you know of more? I don't follow DJT's speeches all that closely, but even if he said it 5 times,in the absence of any clear reason why I should not, I would interpret him as simply saying, "Joe Biden is kaput! Done. Joe Biden has lost his utility."
if Biden was dead, was he then executed just prior to the Jan 20 inauguration, so that he was given a state funeral? WHY would Joe Biden be given a state funeral? Would the WH's let him actually be elected, and then take him out, because "the election was stolen"? Could the ceremony have any other meaning? Symbolic meaning? I don't have clear answers, and I think its interdasting, but so far, it's not something I count as a being clear.
100% agree. No, 200% agree. But this is really close to my point. If pedes would acknowledge that its a belief, and then approach it as a belief, and recognize it as a belief, then I think, that's OK. But pretending that "my belief is correct and infallible, and obvious" I dunno. I feel like too many pedes don't reflect on what they believe and recognize WHY they believe it. Often, it's for emotionally driven reasons, imo. Not purely logical or empirical.
Also, to be frank, I'm vary wary of disinfo operations targeted at anons and awake people. I see them all around the place, and think they do a lot of damage. When I see people place emotional attachment into certain beliefs, I wonder, what is the benefit? Belief should be tempered and balanced with acknowledged fallibility. "I believe this, but of course I might be wrong" is a good starting point.
I also see a certain 'frenzy" around some narratives, where (in my view,) some people attach to them very strongly, but without a lot of those checks and balances.
Yes, I agree with you here, too.
However, I think it's really important to NOT lose sight of the fact that belief is not equivalent to fact, and opinion is not equivalent to fact, and that as much as possible, we should be open to questioning our choices in belief and opinion, debating them, listening to other arguments, etc.
One example comes to mind: Human driven climate change. There are real, bonafide experts, specialists who know their stuff through and through who present their view on CC and offer a fact-based, evidence based, rigorously developed case why HDCC is a load of bunk. It includes not only the science, but also tangible and reasonable arguments for the WHY and the HOW, too.
So far, I've not see that vis-a-vis the Biden Not Biden arguments. Lots more too it all, obviously. I appreciate the thoughtful reply, and I'm certainly open to hearing WHY you believe what you believe or why you have the opinion you have. That's how we draw closer to truth: listening.
I'm not trying to convince you. But here are a couple bits of info on the mix. There are better and longer compilations of the "he's shot" repetitions, but this is first one I found.
https://truthsocial.com/@QBeliever3/110988758486573034
https://greatawakening.win/p/17r9bDJ8BF/the-oddities-of-joe-bidens-arm--/c/
Here are two threads on the salute and the inauguration.
Https://greatawakening.win/p/16aTLs6FLL/derek-johnson-explained-how-bide/
https://greatawakening.win/p/141EwRJETX/the-21gun-salute-president-donal/c/
Either way, there's a lot of truth that is purposely absent from MSM. Here on GAW we try to suss out the truth from the incomplete pictures we're shown. Pinning down the reasons for deception is an extra level, requiring more study, beyond just seeing through the lie.
I agree with you about how many anons mistake opinion for fact, but the anons here are generally better at it than YT influencers that make their living with flashy headlines that often lack substance. I personally haven't been bothered by the fake-Biden-advocates' reason-denying extremes, but that might be because I agree with their position anyway.
RE: The salute and inauguration
Not a fan of the conjecture that vp Joe Biden has been executed by firing squad and that the person in the white house (or the white house set) is a fake impostor.
The crowds NOT at the inauguration are easily explained due to Covid. They deliberately changed from previous inaugurations (remember, everyone on Earth was going to die if they got together... sarc)
I don't know about the 21 gun salute.
It seems pretty clear that there were weird things happening, and a lot of evidence pointing towards some form of devolution (which does not mean, however that DJT is CIC. IN fact, if the office of president is devolved, then likewise the authority of CIC is likely to be devolved to. Devolution does NOT necessarily mean DJT is potus or CIC.)
But none of those things I find inspire me to the theory that Joe Biden is dead and an impostor is where he is. I find other more convincing (to me) explanations. Perhaps another point I think of is Real Raw News and how there are clear and obvious disinfo operations pushing the "everyone is executed or at gitmo, and the whole world of public figures are clones/fakes" narratives.
It's strange times, and we may never find out the actual truth. Maybe in 50 years? I think it's important to be OK with not knowing a lot of stuff, for that matter. It takes a based sense of security to recognize that I cannot or do not know everything, and to still be Ok with that. (whereas one core trait of normie cognitive dissonance is a rejection of the idea that what the media tells us isn't the truth, aka that I really don't know the truth.)
Thanks again for the top value reply.
I love the compilation of DJT saying he's shot, but then, like I wrote previously, I don't see anything in this other than him saying what he is on the surface, aka that Biden is kaput and has lost his utility. Aka regular and normal meaning of "he is shot".
(In fact, if it were otherwise, he'd really have to say "he's been shot". That would be a whole different kettle of fish.
Also, the oddities. Well, for me, I don't see anything in this to make me go, wow. The quality of the video, the lighting, etc, the angles, there are a LOT of variables there, for me. But perhaps my own biases influence what I see. That's just as possible for me as for others, I guess. Goose and gander and all that.
I find the idea that some public figures got 'fake shots' to be totally plausible, however. I.e. footage and stuff as if they were getting shots, because that's pretty much standard for slimy public figures: Drama put on for the media.
Ah, curious comparison with YT influencers. To my mind, they do not even come close (there is no comparison with most of our GAW pedes.)
I'll tuck the salute inauguration threads away for a closer look later. But yeah, no need to try to convince each other (although I must admit, I try to convince anons to review HOW they look at things, rather than to convince them of MY own conclusions or beliefs. That's pretty useless.
In the meantime, thanks for the thoughtful res, and I'm keep to keep my eyes open.
Here's another one to think about. Very low stakes by comparison. Easier to research independently; less disinfo traps.
https://rumble.com/v4byiu0-fake-maga-matt-gaetz.html
I expect that DJT has at least one double as well. And, like you, there are plenty of things that I'm perfectly comfortable not knowing. And likely much that I've gotten wrong, even without counting my 100% incorrect record in the datefag category. I hope that most will be revealed publicly with proof, but I'm sure lots won't be.
I think there's a point of convergence in our thinking here. I think it is entirely plausible for a president to hire a body double or two for specific cases,i.e. when assassination might be a danger, and travel or other activity needs to be kept clandestine, etc.
Or that C_A might use masks for a sting operation, where the subject is in contact with the targets for a few hours, or a few times, etc.
But I don't think it is plausible that an actor could be impersonating the President of the USA (or person in that position) all the time, all day, all week, year after year.
Sorry. I couldn't get past 1:50.
Dead (Not Dead) John Mcafee telling us?
Gaetz referred to his adopted as "his helper"? (obvious could never do this in real life, right?)
Gaetz who lost weight is.... magically ... doesn't look like the same person?
Spooky vibe music?
Internet trolls are evidence?
so many red flags on this, I just couldn't listen seriously past 1:50.
<Break>
But because it's from you, I sucked up my gut and listened to the end.
Oh, wait? Very soon we're going to find out....!!!???! People we thought we trusted?
I'm pretty sure Q has been talking about the civic leaders, political, business and media leaders who are part of the swamp and who have taught us all our (normie) lives that they are serving us are exposed to be .. .not serving us. Aka people who are normies waking up to realize, dayum, the two parties are ... actually a unaparty! for example.
Not that bingo, hey, Matt Gaetz was executed and the person we see now is a double!!!!
No, this video reeks to high heaven with so many red flags that I give it 0 credence. So many other far better explanations for what is presented (including opinions) than that this is over the target. With apologies, its late and also, To discuss all of those red flags in detail would take a LONG write up.
But maybe that's just me.
I do appreciate the dialog we're having, though. (And apologies about the sarcasm. Sadly, I would categorize this guy's video take as junk, and I have a strong prejudice against junk data, like I do against junk food, and less and less time for it these days. Too much real information out there. )
I realize that the word "shot" can mean, in this instance, he's just not up to the job. Q told us everything has meaning. We were given strong clues that McNoname was executed. Do you think it was one and done? OK they executed McNoname but then stopped. Uh, no. Q was giving us a peek into what was happening behind the scenes. I have no proof, but then, you have no proof they are still alive.
.....you mean apart from their continued presence and action as human beings, viewed via media etc?
With that reasoning, Angel, we have no proof that Q is real, that we aren't being ruled by Aliens and lizard people, and that we aren't living in the Matrix like the movie matrix, or that everything we do NOT see directly in person is even happening, and that we aren't living in the Truman Show.
To say that people right in front of is is "no proof that they are alive" is.... it's silly, sorry. Just plain silly.
Exactly. That was solid information given by Q.
Q never said anyone else was executed.
"Do you think it was one and done?" No. But now you are stepping into theorizing and conjecture, building conjecture on conjecture, on conjecture.
Do I have proof perfect that Joe Biden is Joe Biden, or that Elon Musk is Elon Musk, or that Michael Flynn is Michael Flynn? No. But I have a LOT more evidence that they are who they say they are than otherwise.
Hey, choose your beliefs! It's your prerogative. But don't try and pass your belief of as if its fact. Also, interpreting "everything has meaning" to mean "you can just pick and choose whatever fact or thing you like and make your OWN meaning out of it".... I don't think that is what Q was saying.
But that's my opinion.