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Evidence We’ve taken a Giant Step Backwards !! 😡😡 (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 2 years ago by Oldpatriot 2 years ago by Oldpatriot +176 / -0
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– tdbo 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

The old school methods have always been there and have been utilized throughout. Capitalism is merely a facade to make it seem warm and fuzzy. Until it isn't. That's where we are now.

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– Oldpatriot [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Capitalism, IE Free Enterprise, works in a REPUBLIC where we have the Rights and the Freedom to work hard and enjoy the Fruits of OUR OWN Labor, not live off of the fruits of someone else’s.. (We should be Charitable Yes, but Charity is not Demanded, rather than Appreciated , by those receiving it) America was established as a country whose Authority was We The People… Our problems lie in the fact that that Authority has become Distracted and Lazy and has not been vigilant in its responsibilities, demanding the people Hired to work for them be Accountable, Thus Giving the Employees the Power… Welcome to DEMOCRACY !!!

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– Slyver 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Capitalism is not "Free Enterprise." That is the lie told to control the opposition. Confusing those things is what you are intended to do. It is how the PTB control the conversation about pretty much everything. Please see my comment below.

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– Bandanna1 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

We've abstracted it too greatly and too many generations have passed since the initial idea.

Currency is a representation of a ratio between energy and desire we say things like production and demand.

But the source of all value is from another humans mind and energy applied over some time to create something or perform a service.

Other humans can want or desire this service or product and the level of their want can measured in objectivr units of currency instead of subjective things.

Capitalism allows humans to alleviate other humans pain or solving problems and I return absorb some of the units of they have spent their energy accruing.

Unfortunately. Things like financial interests banks and the federal reserve printing these units without real restriction has diluted and opened what is intended to work as a closed system.

However, capitalism, currency, and even the legal system are things we have created that serve as an abstract proxy in the western world to substitute direct and immediate violence and disincentivise the primary of strategy of simply using force to obtain things. This allows for innovation and incentivoses humans to problem solve to create things that alleviate pain or generate value by improving efficiencies as the quote states.

Anti-capitalists are fools and should be careful what they wish for.

It does not take money to make money although it can help.

The first step - that will always exist - is that one can always utilize there physical body to provide a service for the elderly who's physical body is wearing down.

This is mutually beneficial and allows anyone to obtain capital. Clean the homes of the elderly. Provide food for the elderly. This will always be an option.

Slowly utilize this capital in order to educate yourself. Explore interests and talents you have. Educate yourself broadly. Read books, attempt things. Thus step can take some time but there is no rush.

Once you find something you are very passionate about and is something people have a want or need for begin narrowing down your education to just this topic and begin ascending vertically and narrowly rather than broadly.

Learn enough to create or generate a service of value. I always appreciate mechanics or handyman, again this will always be a need because a fact of life, much like the human body that wears down over time, so does everything. As you learn about something like mechanics just as an example maybe as you become more educated in it and take on more work you may discover if you are smart that you enjoy more abstractly, math or engineering. Maybe one day you wake-up and instead of wishing to repair you wish to create.

This is good. Now utilize you capital you have accrued from repairing to thinking how you can create.

Once you can create something people want you will be able to obtain capital indirectly.

Once you are able to make capital indirectly as well as make capital actively, use your capital to increase your efficiency by making it easier for you to create or by teaching others to create and repair.

Give capital to others to clean your home and repair your things. Perhaps you have the ability and knowledge to do it yourself but now your time is better spent on creating more things to help humanity, or training others to benefit humanity at scale. Also. Don't forget it is mutually beneficial for you to provide someone some of your capital for them to clean your home as they may have little and the only thing they can provide right now is their labor. This is a fair exchange.

Continue like this on and on.

When you see others entering each stage provide some capital in exchange for what they provide. When you see someone in need of capital with no skills find a use for them. When you someone with a budding skill, exchange your capital they can hone their skills for you. When you see someone learning to create and repair provide them capital for the resources they need to create and repair in exchange for some benefit of their creation. When you see someone training others to create and repair and provide value provide them capital so that they may do this for you friends.

Eventually you will have such an abundance and have helped so many that at a certain point you will have forgotten why you needed capital in the first place. You have eaten all this time you have been clothed and sheltered all this time, you have gained friends and loved ones, mentors, and students throughout this path, your life is full.

Did it start because you wanted money? Or because you wanted to help?

Who knows anymore.

There are many paths to take but the issue we have with capital in America is no one sees any path clearly. It's not about the currency. It's not about the capital. It's about alleviating suffering. Creation. Iteration. Innovation. Generation. Mutal benefit. The scaling of the human mind and energy, interconnected by all of our skills and experiences working together trying to improve this indifferent world to bring humanity more comfort, more joy, less suffering. But like so many things our hearts betray us, we lose sight. You don't want money. You want safety and security and love, respect, a full stomach and a warm bed, a purpose, knowledge. You can obtain all this by learning how to obtain money in an ethical way. But don't lose sight.

Don't let the world today blind you with its complexity.

This all comes from somewhere good.

Edit: to any few who have read this and are sparked, I am saying nothing new. But only rambling about something our society needs to be reminded of more than ever.

Please direct attention to - https://iep.utm.edu/smith/#:~:text=Adam%20Smith%20is%20often%20identified%20as%20the%20father%20of%20modern%20capitalism.

Read; The Wealth of Nations (1776)

Spend a few days.

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– stansmithguy 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, it's just the history books that romanticise the past to make it look like it was just honourable people, decent government etc.

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– Slyver 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Capitalism, by definition, is an economic design model where you take gained capital and reinvest it into your business to gain more capital. It is all about growth. Just being "sustained," or "happy with where we're at," etc. is outside of the definition of Capitalism.

People, by design of the propagandists, confuse "Capitalism" with "Free market" or they think of Capitalism strictly in opposition to what they imagine "Communism" or "Socialism" are.

Communism and Socialism, are, by definition, also just economic design models, and there is, in that scope, nothing wrong with them. People conflate what all three of these economic design models are, by economic definition, with how they have been put into practice (State run forced economies). That causes confusion which causes a great deal of heat in discussions about them, with an inability on every side to actually talk about what these things really are, and perhaps more important, what they are not.

What they are not is a Free Market. None of the above are a Free Market. In a Free Market you can apply any -ism you want to your business model, or make up your own, and the Market will decide your success. A Free Market is, by definition, not controlled by anyone. Capitalism has always been controlled. It was created by people who wanted to control everything, which was exactly what they succeeded in doing with Capitalism. These same people also created both Socialism and Communism (as economic design models) and then set the world against itself, through pushing all sides of the conversation in arguments about "what is best" through their "Left" and "Right" propagandists. Everyone lying, everyone confusing what they are really talking about.

Which of course is exactly what Controlled Opposition looks like. Those who push Capitalism are just acting out one half of the Controlled Opposition. They think they are pushing for a Free Market, but nothing could be further from the truth. On the opposite side those pushing for Socialism/Communism think they are pushing for more freedoms for the market and the individual, and against the world wide monopoly that controls the market, and nothing there too could be further from the truth.

What we really want, and what no one is actually pushing for, what is not a part of the conversation, is a Free Market. A Free Market means no controls, no regulations, no police, no State involvement whatsoever. Let people decide for themselves what they want to sell and what they want to buy. A person can never be free as long as the Market is controlled by the State, or though a hidden monopoly; both of which apply to our world in general, and the United States specifically, and have since Capitalism was first implemented. The market has never been free; at least not in the "civilized" world.

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– Qaniso 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yup, a free market is simply the result of the people having liberty and unalienable rights

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– Slyver 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I'm not sure, but I think it might be the other way around. In a free market system, there is no regulation by the state. There are no taxes, there is no input whatsoever by any State entity. all economic transactions are free.

It is hard to imagine any losses of liberty by any outside sources if the market itself is free. There would still be social tradition, and "laws" (though almost no one understands what that term means), but if it doesn't affect what we own, if no State is claiming ownership on your property, or how you conduct your business, what repression of liberties can there effectively be?

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– Qaniso 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

A free market isn't a system that is setup. It simply is something that comes about with the concept of liberty and unalienable rights. No one plans a free market, it just is. It is when you have government control and regulations that you get these other systems like socialism. I think you may have misunderstood my initial reply

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– Slyver 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

No one plans a free market, it just is.

I disagree. I mean, I sorta agree, but I disagree because it can't "just happen," rather, it must be fought for. Capital (money, goods, whatever) is a force. If someone's capital assets are large enough and they apply them directly to control the market, they can and will do so unless others actively work to ensure that doesn't happen (voting with their dollar e.g.). Please read my report on this to understand how this has happened. Indeed, Capitalism by design intends to become a world wide monopoly (which is exactly what we have).

The problem as I see it is, a Free Market can't be "fought for" by any "official" system (State or other formal control structure), rather it must be maintained by a conscientious society. it is awareness that brings about a Free Market. Ignorance and State input ensures it becomes not free.

It is when you have government control and regulations that you get these other systems like socialism.

That's not really true on the most basic level. That's more of an intention of implementation rather than by design, which is what I was trying to say.

Socialism, in its most basic form (as applied to a company), which is the form that is the crux of many arguments for it, is the idea that the people who work at a company determine all functions of the company through a democracy. Applying it to an entire society (a State) isn't necessary. It is, by design, an economic design model. It has nothing, in principle, to do with the State itself, unless one deigns to extend it to that scale.

It is this confusion of "State" v. "company" application that I was trying to elucidate.

But Capitalism is also just an economic design model. It says "excess capital will be reinvested into the company to produce increased levels of capital". It has nothing to do with a Free Market.

Because growth can't possible be indefinite, especially within a single company, any Capitalist economy must be regulated by the State or some other control structure to be maintained. Capitalism can't be a Free Market on the broadest scale (the same scale generally attempted by Socialist or Communist States).

This is a different confusion than the Socialism confusion (scope of application), because the proponents of this never ending growth design (Capitalism) have conflated "Capitalism" with "Free Market." This is a categorical error. A Free Market is an economic system, Capitalism is an economic design model (not an entire system in and of itself). A Free Market is one without rules. Any other system, be it Capitalism, Socialism, or whatever, if insisted on by a society (or its governance), must be regulated to ensure no "bad -isms" make it into the system, and are thus the opposite of a Free Market.

It's either "Free" or it's not. Any compromise is an exploitable loophole, and someone will take advantage of it.

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– Qaniso 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

nah. i still think you got the cart before the donkey.

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– Oldpatriot [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

And it’s not just the money they’re after.. It’s the Power and Control it Affords them…

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– OGpat 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Capitalism only works in the long term for a moral and just people. Like any other freedom, capitalism can be abused.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's why we intended to manage capitalism, however, through the passage of commonly agreed upon laws that prevented monopolization among other things.

Cronyism makes the biggest splash in capitalism though, in the same way nobility lords over the peasantry in communism or socialism.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

We are far from a free capital markets society.

Corporatism has taken over. It’s the same thing as looting and plundering. With all the mom and Pop shops or shut down during Covid, and you can only order from three organizations all owned by Black rock, that’s not capitalism.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

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