I know there are some people who will never get it but I fear there are way more than what we think. We are liked minded here but are we living in a bubble here like DC and Hollyweird but in our own way?
Today I was invited to a brunch at a good friends home. There were about twenty people there. They are black and they are very Christian and loving people. There was only one other white person there. I am explaining this so you understand the mindset.
I never talk politics around them because I am positive they are liberal Democrats.
In the living room they had on MSNBC so I was definitely not sitting in there. As I was walking through they were reporting on Fani Willis being able to stay on the case and they were all excited.
I was sitting in the kitchen with my friends sister and brother. The people at the party are on their late 60's to mid 70's.
I don't recall the conversation but the sister said to her brother who was talking to me I don't like to talk politics. She said to me once I said something to my family and it got really ugly so I don't talk about it anymore.
The brother asked me if I like Trump. I stated as I was laughing I don't really want to talk about this. He said well are you and I said yes I like Trump because I think he has the people's best interests at heart.
He said he's a racist. He said did you know his father's a racist? I said to him I don't know about his father but Trump did a lot for the black community. He said he does that for show. Then I asked him have you ever heard Biden when he was young what he said about the black people? He said he never said anything. I said there's plenty of video but there and you are never going to see that on TV. I said you do know the Democrats where the party of the Klu Klux Klan. He said no they are not. I said how about Robert Byrd he was the head of the Klu Klux klan. I said you do know why the Civil War was fought because Lincoln freed the slaves and the Southern Democrats wanted to keep their slaves. He shook his head no.
He said you kniw what MAGA means. I said yes it means make America great again. He said you know why Trump says that? I said yes. He said he wants to return to slavery. That is what he means. I said no he wants to make America unified and great be being independent. He wants us to be strong and bring manufacturing back to be independent. I told him thus hads absolutely nothing to do with slavery.
I said you better do some research to really find out what's going on not what you're being told because the media is lying to you. His sister said this is why I don't bring it up because everybody yelled at me. Then I asked him I just want you to think about this why does everybody hate this man so much that is in the government.
Then his sister brought up to me about Ukraine and she couldn't understand why Putin wanted to hurt everybody. I told her I had some insight in that since the girl I work with was born and raised in Russia and came here when she was in her twenties and her family is still in Russia.
I told her the reason he went into Ukraine was because the Russians that were there wanted Putin to save them. I told her that there were biolabs there that he destroyed. I said she is not a fan of Putin but she is backing him 100% on this. The media wants to make Putin the boogeyman but I told her the US government is involved in all that is going on in Ukraine so they just want to blame it on Putin.
She said now I'm glad I met somebody that could tell me more than what I was listening to on the news. I told her the worst thing to do is listen to any of the news stations because they all lie.
The one thing I noticed is no one brought up anything about Trump's affairs or anything like that it was all about him being a racist.
This is how effective the media is in brainwashing the masses.
Thought you would want to know my experience today to give you room for thought.
Sometimes a good response to opinions like that is just to ask "Well in your opinion what is the most racist thing he has done?" If they falter then that ought to show them something. If they have false reasons then those can be answered with true facts.
I live in liberalville so I have a lot of experience with this kind of thing. Once during the 2016 debates I asked a black guy on the bus if he watched it and what did he think. He said he thought clinton won and the best time in history for blacks was when bill clinton was president. I mentioned that bill had the good fortune to preside over the tech boom. I talked about the bush/clinton cocaine connection and he was shocked and said it sounds crazy. It was like I know it does. Just look up a documentary on it and see what you think.
See you understand my point there's a lot of people we need to be talking with that have no clue.
When I said Trump was not racist his comment was his father is. He said nobody should be in the white house that is racist.
Then I told him about by then the Democrats and he said he never heard that.
I said that's because the media will never tell you but there's tons of video out there if you go look.
Next time, maybe instead of trying to argue why Trump isn’t a racist, which will always seem defensive, go more inquisitive. Ask them why Trump has more black support than any Republican President since Abraham Lincoln? Now it’s on THEM to make excuses. And what are they going to say? Probably they are all “Uncle Toms”. At that point I would ask, “So 35% of the black population are - I think this is a bigoted term, but it’s yours - you think they are all so-called ‘Uncle Toms’? That’s millions and millions of black people who are just as smart and informed and passionate as you. Why are you taking away their agency like that?”
With liberals, you always have to set the frame that YOU are the one with the bigger heart, YOU are the one who cares more, YOU are the one who seeks to be more open-minded and understanding. This is what they pride themselves on so take that position for yourself. THEY are the ones slandering millions of black people with a bigoted term, not you. YOU are trying to understand these people. YOU see them as real people with agency, not some demeaning caricature.
And always do this with as much true kindness in your voice and heart as possible. Don’t be passive aggressive. Don’t try to score points. Don’t try to shame them. I know they are frustrating but look at them as friends who have been brainwashed by probably the most elaborate and extended political propaganda campaign of all time. If your energy is truly kind, people WILL sense that. But keep putting their positions back on them. If you try to debunk their laundry list of FAKE NEWS, it never works, as Scott Adams points out. Even if you debunk every claim, and get them to concede each one, all they do at the end of it is loop back to the first one. And all anyone remembers from the conversation is the fake claims. So you want to change the whole frame on it. Instead you want everyone who participated in the conversation thinking back going, “Yeah, it WAS kind of obnoxious how Joe called all those black people Uncle Toms. Why would he say that. It was pretty rude.”
I was not combative or argumentative. We were talking and I was making points.
He was trying to insist MAGA meant back to slavery. That is a media talking point.
I explained what is meant by it. I asked him why he thinks he is racist. He said his father was.
I said that Trump did many things for the black community with examples. He said it was all for show.