Because Model Y debuted in China in late 2022 and was used as a social counter against Japanese auto sales (that have always been discouraged by the CCP). Over a third of the sales that JATO counts for all of 2023 are to Chinese markets.
The latter half of 2023 saw a very marked increase in China assaulting western products at market. Expect that position to falter as a result.
Additionally, individual model sales tracking only really became a "news item" when it started to benefit EVs "being close" to beating the traditional OEMs. And thats how all the news articles are written about the Y. Its "upset" the market or caused a "seismic shift" in the auto industry.
But look at total gas/diesel sales vs EV sales and suddenly the real story emerges: EVs are a niche market, often supported by government fleet orders.
Funny how cutting the data until the narrative the paper wants to reach just works out every time.
You're comparing EV's to the total sale of gas/diesel now? That's not even a far comparison at all. Tesla's are the only EV's worth buying, and they outsold a very popular vehicle that's almost half it's cost. You think Tesla EV's are a niche? They were outselling Corolla's even tho they're half the cost. Wait until Tesla puts out a cheaper EV right in the same price range as a Toyota Corolla with 350 miles of range. That will not be a niche market, no matter how bad you want it to be. They're insanely popular because they offer many advantages over gas vehicles.
And it is fair, because EVs are a niche. Heralding the doom of the gasoline industry because one EV is finally in the price range of a fully loaded SUV sounds a lot like the Year of the Linux Desktop, but for cars.
And the only way they get Corolla-level cheap on EVs right now is through even more government subsidy. So I have to pay for your delusions.
Ok pay me for my delusions. Electric drivetrains are far superior to ICE vehicles almost every way except the batteries, the batteries suck, but better battery tech is coming. Once better battery tech is here there is nothing keeping EV's from dominating the market. Electric drivetrains require less maintenance, do not require over complicated transmissions, they're faster, and incredibly more reliable than an ICE engine. Sending electricity over wires is far more efficient, and safe than filling up giant tanks with flammable liquid and driving them across the country, or sailing them across the ocean.
They're also quieter, and way more convenient than ICE vehicles.
You're just like the guy who refused to accept ICE vehicles in the 1900's, and kept riding around in a horse and buggy. At first he probably thought ICE vehicles were just a niche, and no way could they have fill up stations built, and he would be stuck, and his ol' trusty horse just needed a few carrots to keep going. You're the one being delusional if you can't see that EV's will dominate the market some day, when better battery tech comes around.
Unfortunately the Pedophile piece of trash in the White House, and his retarded cabinet with their short sighted tunnel vision were unable to let the market decide on EV's and tried to push them everyone, so now people like you are raging against EV's when you shouldn't be, because they are superior for daily driving to ICE vehicles.
"Electric drivetrains are far superior to ICE vehicles almost every way except the batteries."
And what ways are those?
"The batteries suck"
Yes, they do. For the same reasons that you talk about flammable liquids. Condensing a massive amount of energy to a small space is inherently dangerous. You can't avoid this by preferring one explosion to another.
"better battery tech is coming."
As said by the battery industry for 40 years, and while they have made progress it's not going to happrn soon.
"Once better battery tech is here there is nothing keeping EV's from dominating the market."
Uh huh. Then let it dominate the market without subsidy when that pipe dream becomes a reality.
"Electric drivetrains require less maintenance"
No, they don't. How often do you have to maintain a transmission in your vehicle? Every 80,000 miles? Versus about 100,000 for the drive motors? Yeah, so much less maintenance.
"do not require over complicated transmissions"
Build a transmission, then build four drive motors. I'll wait for your eyes to open.
"they're faster"
In comparison to what? The strangled 4 cylinders you pay for in a $15,000 vehicle or a 6-8 cylinder you can get at the same price point?
"Incredibly more reliable than an ICE engine"
ICE engines operate for millions of miles. The recent spate of unreliability is because of government fuckery.
"Sending electricity over wires is far more efficient"
Not when counted properly. An ICE is far more efficient at generating electricity and delivering it locally than it is to generate it at a power plant, converted to AC, send it long distance to your home, convert it to DC, and then charge your battery.
"safe than filling up giant tanks with flammable liquid"
This is just wrong. Not only do batteries contain explosive liquids, but you are artificially holding back a massive electrical arc. Any damage and it's like you're back driving a ford pinto with a gas tank next to the rear bumper. And electrical fires are much harder to put out than gasoline fires.
"and driving them across the country, or sailing them across the ocean"
How does your intended purpose matter?
"They're also quieter"
True
"and way more convenient than ICE vehicles."
How are they "more convenient"?
"You're just like the guy who refused to accept ICE vehicles in the 1900's...."
You're just the guy who hopped on the steam engine vehicle and ignored the problems others see with them becuase you just know, deep down, that you can't be wrong.
"Unfortunately the Pedophile piece of trash in the White House, and his retarded cabinet with their short sighted tunnel vision were unable to let the market decide on EV's and tried to push them everyone, so now people like you are raging against EV's when you shouldn't be, because they are superior for daily driving to ICE vehicles."
People like you have been brainwashed by the pedophile pieces of trash over the last 20 years to think that EVs are some kind of competitor. It doesn't matter that people like me have taken government money to convert fleets to electric and know first hand all the bullshit surrounding them and what they can actually do and can't actually do.
They have a suitable niche, but it's not the end of ICE in any way shape or form -- unless the government forces it. And their reasons for forcing it are obvious.
Because Model Y debuted in China in late 2022 and was used as a social counter against Japanese auto sales (that have always been discouraged by the CCP). Over a third of the sales that JATO counts for all of 2023 are to Chinese markets.
The latter half of 2023 saw a very marked increase in China assaulting western products at market. Expect that position to falter as a result.
Additionally, individual model sales tracking only really became a "news item" when it started to benefit EVs "being close" to beating the traditional OEMs. And thats how all the news articles are written about the Y. Its "upset" the market or caused a "seismic shift" in the auto industry.
But look at total gas/diesel sales vs EV sales and suddenly the real story emerges: EVs are a niche market, often supported by government fleet orders.
Funny how cutting the data until the narrative the paper wants to reach just works out every time.
You're comparing EV's to the total sale of gas/diesel now? That's not even a far comparison at all. Tesla's are the only EV's worth buying, and they outsold a very popular vehicle that's almost half it's cost. You think Tesla EV's are a niche? They were outselling Corolla's even tho they're half the cost. Wait until Tesla puts out a cheaper EV right in the same price range as a Toyota Corolla with 350 miles of range. That will not be a niche market, no matter how bad you want it to be. They're insanely popular because they offer many advantages over gas vehicles.
What advantages do they offer?
And it is fair, because EVs are a niche. Heralding the doom of the gasoline industry because one EV is finally in the price range of a fully loaded SUV sounds a lot like the Year of the Linux Desktop, but for cars.
And the only way they get Corolla-level cheap on EVs right now is through even more government subsidy. So I have to pay for your delusions.
Ok pay me for my delusions. Electric drivetrains are far superior to ICE vehicles almost every way except the batteries, the batteries suck, but better battery tech is coming. Once better battery tech is here there is nothing keeping EV's from dominating the market. Electric drivetrains require less maintenance, do not require over complicated transmissions, they're faster, and incredibly more reliable than an ICE engine. Sending electricity over wires is far more efficient, and safe than filling up giant tanks with flammable liquid and driving them across the country, or sailing them across the ocean.
They're also quieter, and way more convenient than ICE vehicles.
You're just like the guy who refused to accept ICE vehicles in the 1900's, and kept riding around in a horse and buggy. At first he probably thought ICE vehicles were just a niche, and no way could they have fill up stations built, and he would be stuck, and his ol' trusty horse just needed a few carrots to keep going. You're the one being delusional if you can't see that EV's will dominate the market some day, when better battery tech comes around.
Unfortunately the Pedophile piece of trash in the White House, and his retarded cabinet with their short sighted tunnel vision were unable to let the market decide on EV's and tried to push them everyone, so now people like you are raging against EV's when you shouldn't be, because they are superior for daily driving to ICE vehicles.
"Ok pay me for my delusions." No.
"Electric drivetrains are far superior to ICE vehicles almost every way except the batteries." And what ways are those?
"The batteries suck" Yes, they do. For the same reasons that you talk about flammable liquids. Condensing a massive amount of energy to a small space is inherently dangerous. You can't avoid this by preferring one explosion to another.
"better battery tech is coming." As said by the battery industry for 40 years, and while they have made progress it's not going to happrn soon.
"Once better battery tech is here there is nothing keeping EV's from dominating the market." Uh huh. Then let it dominate the market without subsidy when that pipe dream becomes a reality.
"Electric drivetrains require less maintenance" No, they don't. How often do you have to maintain a transmission in your vehicle? Every 80,000 miles? Versus about 100,000 for the drive motors? Yeah, so much less maintenance.
"do not require over complicated transmissions" Build a transmission, then build four drive motors. I'll wait for your eyes to open.
"they're faster" In comparison to what? The strangled 4 cylinders you pay for in a $15,000 vehicle or a 6-8 cylinder you can get at the same price point?
"Incredibly more reliable than an ICE engine" ICE engines operate for millions of miles. The recent spate of unreliability is because of government fuckery.
"Sending electricity over wires is far more efficient" Not when counted properly. An ICE is far more efficient at generating electricity and delivering it locally than it is to generate it at a power plant, converted to AC, send it long distance to your home, convert it to DC, and then charge your battery.
"safe than filling up giant tanks with flammable liquid" This is just wrong. Not only do batteries contain explosive liquids, but you are artificially holding back a massive electrical arc. Any damage and it's like you're back driving a ford pinto with a gas tank next to the rear bumper. And electrical fires are much harder to put out than gasoline fires.
"and driving them across the country, or sailing them across the ocean" How does your intended purpose matter?
"They're also quieter" True
"and way more convenient than ICE vehicles." How are they "more convenient"?
"You're just like the guy who refused to accept ICE vehicles in the 1900's...." You're just the guy who hopped on the steam engine vehicle and ignored the problems others see with them becuase you just know, deep down, that you can't be wrong.
"Unfortunately the Pedophile piece of trash in the White House, and his retarded cabinet with their short sighted tunnel vision were unable to let the market decide on EV's and tried to push them everyone, so now people like you are raging against EV's when you shouldn't be, because they are superior for daily driving to ICE vehicles." People like you have been brainwashed by the pedophile pieces of trash over the last 20 years to think that EVs are some kind of competitor. It doesn't matter that people like me have taken government money to convert fleets to electric and know first hand all the bullshit surrounding them and what they can actually do and can't actually do.
They have a suitable niche, but it's not the end of ICE in any way shape or form -- unless the government forces it. And their reasons for forcing it are obvious.