Ok pay me for my delusions. Electric drivetrains are far superior to ICE vehicles almost every way except the batteries, the batteries suck, but better battery tech is coming. Once better battery tech is here there is nothing keeping EV's from dominating the market. Electric drivetrains require less maintenance, do not require over complicated transmissions, they're faster, and incredibly more reliable than an ICE engine. Sending electricity over wires is far more efficient, and safe than filling up giant tanks with flammable liquid and driving them across the country, or sailing them across the ocean.
They're also quieter, and way more convenient than ICE vehicles.
You're just like the guy who refused to accept ICE vehicles in the 1900's, and kept riding around in a horse and buggy. At first he probably thought ICE vehicles were just a niche, and no way could they have fill up stations built, and he would be stuck, and his ol' trusty horse just needed a few carrots to keep going. You're the one being delusional if you can't see that EV's will dominate the market some day, when better battery tech comes around.
Unfortunately the Pedophile piece of trash in the White House, and his retarded cabinet with their short sighted tunnel vision were unable to let the market decide on EV's and tried to push them everyone, so now people like you are raging against EV's when you shouldn't be, because they are superior for daily driving to ICE vehicles.
"Electric drivetrains are far superior to ICE vehicles almost every way except the batteries."
And what ways are those?
"The batteries suck"
Yes, they do. For the same reasons that you talk about flammable liquids. Condensing a massive amount of energy to a small space is inherently dangerous. You can't avoid this by preferring one explosion to another.
"better battery tech is coming."
As said by the battery industry for 40 years, and while they have made progress it's not going to happrn soon.
"Once better battery tech is here there is nothing keeping EV's from dominating the market."
Uh huh. Then let it dominate the market without subsidy when that pipe dream becomes a reality.
"Electric drivetrains require less maintenance"
No, they don't. How often do you have to maintain a transmission in your vehicle? Every 80,000 miles? Versus about 100,000 for the drive motors? Yeah, so much less maintenance.
"do not require over complicated transmissions"
Build a transmission, then build four drive motors. I'll wait for your eyes to open.
"they're faster"
In comparison to what? The strangled 4 cylinders you pay for in a $15,000 vehicle or a 6-8 cylinder you can get at the same price point?
"Incredibly more reliable than an ICE engine"
ICE engines operate for millions of miles. The recent spate of unreliability is because of government fuckery.
"Sending electricity over wires is far more efficient"
Not when counted properly. An ICE is far more efficient at generating electricity and delivering it locally than it is to generate it at a power plant, converted to AC, send it long distance to your home, convert it to DC, and then charge your battery.
"safe than filling up giant tanks with flammable liquid"
This is just wrong. Not only do batteries contain explosive liquids, but you are artificially holding back a massive electrical arc. Any damage and it's like you're back driving a ford pinto with a gas tank next to the rear bumper. And electrical fires are much harder to put out than gasoline fires.
"and driving them across the country, or sailing them across the ocean"
How does your intended purpose matter?
"They're also quieter"
True
"and way more convenient than ICE vehicles."
How are they "more convenient"?
"You're just like the guy who refused to accept ICE vehicles in the 1900's...."
You're just the guy who hopped on the steam engine vehicle and ignored the problems others see with them becuase you just know, deep down, that you can't be wrong.
"Unfortunately the Pedophile piece of trash in the White House, and his retarded cabinet with their short sighted tunnel vision were unable to let the market decide on EV's and tried to push them everyone, so now people like you are raging against EV's when you shouldn't be, because they are superior for daily driving to ICE vehicles."
People like you have been brainwashed by the pedophile pieces of trash over the last 20 years to think that EVs are some kind of competitor. It doesn't matter that people like me have taken government money to convert fleets to electric and know first hand all the bullshit surrounding them and what they can actually do and can't actually do.
They have a suitable niche, but it's not the end of ICE in any way shape or form -- unless the government forces it. And their reasons for forcing it are obvious.
"I really like how you put everything I Say in quotes, that's so adorable,"
Oh no. A grammar nazi. I am undone.
"now back to all the retarded shit you just said."
And you ignored half of what i said because you can't comprehend. Thats why im leading you through it like a child with quotes.
"Better battery tech is already invented, it's just waiting to come to market."
Better battery tech has been invented at least 100 times in the last 50 years. The problem with 'better battery tech' is that it never makes it to market, no matter how many press releases the materials scientists put out hyping people for their work.
"Yes they're faster, a 100k Model S plaid can beat a 2 million dollar Bugatti off the line."
Both of which are vehicles people don't buy and never hope to buy.
"Electric motors don't have nearly as many fail points as internal combustion engines do"
"Fail points" now? What happened to complexity? Oh, right. You dont understand how either actually works, so you're just groping for whatever will make you feel better about yourself.
"yes we've perfected ICE vehicles to be very reliable"
Immaterial. Electric motors have spent the same amount of time being 'perfected'.
"Your water pump broke?"
Ironically an component in both designs. What happens when your EV's water pump breaks?
"Oh here's a blown head gasket, oh your oil pump failed, enjoy getting a new engine."
Oh, here's a crossed wire. Looks like you need a new battery.
"Things as simple as a thermostat breaking can destroy your engine"
Things as simple as a software update can brick your car. You are grasping at outliers. By the way, the thermal sensors in your EV's coolant system failing can also brick your battery and motors.
"meanwhile brushless electric motors can practically run forever with barely any maintenance to the actual motor"
You seriously ignored actual maintenance savings to grasp at situations that are caused by luck or idiocy.
"Ha, the steam engine? Anyone with half a brain can see that steam engines had inherent problems that would make them impractical for every day use."
And yet, it found its fanatical adherents.
"IF you just examine electric motors they are far more practical than ICE for every day use."
I have examined them. In depth. Multiple times across fleets upto 25,000 units in size.
"They are a not suitable niche, and your short sighted inability to see what the future holds is remarkable."
MmmHmmmm
"ICE vehicles will be niche, NOPE, Ice vehicles will be gone"
MmmHmmmmmmmm.
"and hydrogen engines will be the niche which will only be used for enthusiasts"
Uh huh. Another technology thats been just 5-10 years away from fruition for half a century. Just like cold fusion, solar panels, and wind mills.
" EV's will be the norm, sorry to break the truth to you."
Your twisted world view echos the WEF's.
"You can keep buying your mexican made shitty ICE vehicles from woke shitbird companies like Ford, and Jeep while I'll buy a truly American made vehicle from a someone who truly appreciates free speech."
And who buys his components from places that use child slave labor and environmental destruction for his power source.
And would it break your brain to know that all the vins I own start with the number 1?
"Oh and please don't bother putting everything I said in quotes, with your responses directly after the quotes, it's quite annoying to try to an read it like that. You can just rebuttal what I say, I know what I said you don't to quote everything."
The only way to teach a child he's wrong is to rub his nose in his own fantasy and ridicule him for it.
Ok pay me for my delusions. Electric drivetrains are far superior to ICE vehicles almost every way except the batteries, the batteries suck, but better battery tech is coming. Once better battery tech is here there is nothing keeping EV's from dominating the market. Electric drivetrains require less maintenance, do not require over complicated transmissions, they're faster, and incredibly more reliable than an ICE engine. Sending electricity over wires is far more efficient, and safe than filling up giant tanks with flammable liquid and driving them across the country, or sailing them across the ocean.
They're also quieter, and way more convenient than ICE vehicles.
You're just like the guy who refused to accept ICE vehicles in the 1900's, and kept riding around in a horse and buggy. At first he probably thought ICE vehicles were just a niche, and no way could they have fill up stations built, and he would be stuck, and his ol' trusty horse just needed a few carrots to keep going. You're the one being delusional if you can't see that EV's will dominate the market some day, when better battery tech comes around.
Unfortunately the Pedophile piece of trash in the White House, and his retarded cabinet with their short sighted tunnel vision were unable to let the market decide on EV's and tried to push them everyone, so now people like you are raging against EV's when you shouldn't be, because they are superior for daily driving to ICE vehicles.
"Ok pay me for my delusions." No.
"Electric drivetrains are far superior to ICE vehicles almost every way except the batteries." And what ways are those?
"The batteries suck" Yes, they do. For the same reasons that you talk about flammable liquids. Condensing a massive amount of energy to a small space is inherently dangerous. You can't avoid this by preferring one explosion to another.
"better battery tech is coming." As said by the battery industry for 40 years, and while they have made progress it's not going to happrn soon.
"Once better battery tech is here there is nothing keeping EV's from dominating the market." Uh huh. Then let it dominate the market without subsidy when that pipe dream becomes a reality.
"Electric drivetrains require less maintenance" No, they don't. How often do you have to maintain a transmission in your vehicle? Every 80,000 miles? Versus about 100,000 for the drive motors? Yeah, so much less maintenance.
"do not require over complicated transmissions" Build a transmission, then build four drive motors. I'll wait for your eyes to open.
"they're faster" In comparison to what? The strangled 4 cylinders you pay for in a $15,000 vehicle or a 6-8 cylinder you can get at the same price point?
"Incredibly more reliable than an ICE engine" ICE engines operate for millions of miles. The recent spate of unreliability is because of government fuckery.
"Sending electricity over wires is far more efficient" Not when counted properly. An ICE is far more efficient at generating electricity and delivering it locally than it is to generate it at a power plant, converted to AC, send it long distance to your home, convert it to DC, and then charge your battery.
"safe than filling up giant tanks with flammable liquid" This is just wrong. Not only do batteries contain explosive liquids, but you are artificially holding back a massive electrical arc. Any damage and it's like you're back driving a ford pinto with a gas tank next to the rear bumper. And electrical fires are much harder to put out than gasoline fires.
"and driving them across the country, or sailing them across the ocean" How does your intended purpose matter?
"They're also quieter" True
"and way more convenient than ICE vehicles." How are they "more convenient"?
"You're just like the guy who refused to accept ICE vehicles in the 1900's...." You're just the guy who hopped on the steam engine vehicle and ignored the problems others see with them becuase you just know, deep down, that you can't be wrong.
"Unfortunately the Pedophile piece of trash in the White House, and his retarded cabinet with their short sighted tunnel vision were unable to let the market decide on EV's and tried to push them everyone, so now people like you are raging against EV's when you shouldn't be, because they are superior for daily driving to ICE vehicles." People like you have been brainwashed by the pedophile pieces of trash over the last 20 years to think that EVs are some kind of competitor. It doesn't matter that people like me have taken government money to convert fleets to electric and know first hand all the bullshit surrounding them and what they can actually do and can't actually do.
They have a suitable niche, but it's not the end of ICE in any way shape or form -- unless the government forces it. And their reasons for forcing it are obvious.
"I really like how you put everything I Say in quotes, that's so adorable," Oh no. A grammar nazi. I am undone.
"now back to all the retarded shit you just said." And you ignored half of what i said because you can't comprehend. Thats why im leading you through it like a child with quotes.
"Better battery tech is already invented, it's just waiting to come to market." Better battery tech has been invented at least 100 times in the last 50 years. The problem with 'better battery tech' is that it never makes it to market, no matter how many press releases the materials scientists put out hyping people for their work.
"Yes they're faster, a 100k Model S plaid can beat a 2 million dollar Bugatti off the line." Both of which are vehicles people don't buy and never hope to buy.
"Electric motors don't have nearly as many fail points as internal combustion engines do" "Fail points" now? What happened to complexity? Oh, right. You dont understand how either actually works, so you're just groping for whatever will make you feel better about yourself.
"yes we've perfected ICE vehicles to be very reliable" Immaterial. Electric motors have spent the same amount of time being 'perfected'.
"Your water pump broke?" Ironically an component in both designs. What happens when your EV's water pump breaks?
"Oh here's a blown head gasket, oh your oil pump failed, enjoy getting a new engine." Oh, here's a crossed wire. Looks like you need a new battery.
"Things as simple as a thermostat breaking can destroy your engine" Things as simple as a software update can brick your car. You are grasping at outliers. By the way, the thermal sensors in your EV's coolant system failing can also brick your battery and motors.
"meanwhile brushless electric motors can practically run forever with barely any maintenance to the actual motor"
You seriously ignored actual maintenance savings to grasp at situations that are caused by luck or idiocy.
"Ha, the steam engine? Anyone with half a brain can see that steam engines had inherent problems that would make them impractical for every day use." And yet, it found its fanatical adherents.
"IF you just examine electric motors they are far more practical than ICE for every day use." I have examined them. In depth. Multiple times across fleets upto 25,000 units in size.
"They are a not suitable niche, and your short sighted inability to see what the future holds is remarkable." MmmHmmmm
"ICE vehicles will be niche, NOPE, Ice vehicles will be gone" MmmHmmmmmmmm.
"and hydrogen engines will be the niche which will only be used for enthusiasts" Uh huh. Another technology thats been just 5-10 years away from fruition for half a century. Just like cold fusion, solar panels, and wind mills.
" EV's will be the norm, sorry to break the truth to you." Your twisted world view echos the WEF's.
"You can keep buying your mexican made shitty ICE vehicles from woke shitbird companies like Ford, and Jeep while I'll buy a truly American made vehicle from a someone who truly appreciates free speech." And who buys his components from places that use child slave labor and environmental destruction for his power source.
And would it break your brain to know that all the vins I own start with the number 1?
"Oh and please don't bother putting everything I said in quotes, with your responses directly after the quotes, it's quite annoying to try to an read it like that. You can just rebuttal what I say, I know what I said you don't to quote everything." The only way to teach a child he's wrong is to rub his nose in his own fantasy and ridicule him for it.