When most ppl say that we are a Democracy they tend to think we are ruled according to the will of the majority and that is not true, thank God!
That really isn't something that I've seen much of outside this community. It's really only here that I see people who believe democracy just means mob rule.
I can't describe how shocked I was when I first came here and saw people not only saying the US wasn't a Democracy, but who were basically shitting on the concept of democracy itself.
Since then, I've been digging into the reasons behind this attitude, and from what I can tell, it mostly came about after the 2016 election when HRC (allegedly) won the popular vote while Trump had an electoral college win. When people started grumbling about getting rid of the electoral college, that's when this idea of the US not being a Democracy seems to have become common in pro-Trump circles.
It's only when there's the appearance that Democrats are the majority does majority rule get criticized so much. Like you just mentioned:
I say “thank God” because I don’t want to be ruled over by the hive mind of big city politics.
When there's the idea that liberals in big cities outnumber conservatives in the rest of the country, then we see the opinion that majority rule is bad.
But when we see people insisting that conservatives actually outnumber liberals in the US, (something I see mentioned frequently here) then majority rule is good.
And it's not just limited to politics. Some of the most passionate arguments I've seen in favor of majority rule comes from this very board.
When the conversation turns to religion, majority rule is favored because Christianity is the majority religion here. When the conversation turns to racial or cultural issues, again, majority rule is favored because white people and traditions and culture based on Western European influences is the majority here.
I don't really have an issue with any of that, other than the general dislike of hypocrisy.
The biggest issue I have is that so many people have no clue what they're talking about in regards to what Democracies and Republics are, and they're just loud and proud in their ignorance. It doesn't reflect well on their general education nor their research skills. And perhaps the worst of all, they run amok in the world telling people how shitty democracy is and making us all look ignorant by association.
It's not semantics when they have no clue what either actually mean. It's just plain ignorance. Prideful, willful ignorance. Especially considering how often they just shit talk about how horrible democracy is. I don't think that's having their ideas or their hearts in the right place.
And yet,, if you ask them if they support a democratic republic they would adamently say yes! I find that response to “ultimately” be what’s important and have learnt not to hold a grudge against the folks that don’t fully understand what we are suppose to be operating as.
One of the main reasons we are having to live through this shitshow “psyop” right now is to somehow reverse engineer ppls current understandings. Those understandings were put on us through our education system, media, entertainment industry, government, intelligence agencies etc.. So I understand why ppl don’t know about these things, I don’t accept it as ok, but I understand how and why it’s happened.
Where do you see anyone saying they would support a democratic republic?
Have you actually had any conversations with anyone here regarding such things? Or are you just guessing that's how they feel?
I, however, have had discussions with several of the people here about it, and they sure as shit weren't adamantly saying they would support a democratic republic.
Here's a link to some conversations I had a couple weeks ago. Pay close attention to how they not only speak about democracy, but democratic Republics.
Maybe you can show me all the enthusiastic approval you think they have for either. Because I sure as hell don't see it.
That really isn't something that I've seen much of outside this community. It's really only here that I see people who believe democracy just means mob rule.
I can't describe how shocked I was when I first came here and saw people not only saying the US wasn't a Democracy, but who were basically shitting on the concept of democracy itself.
Since then, I've been digging into the reasons behind this attitude, and from what I can tell, it mostly came about after the 2016 election when HRC (allegedly) won the popular vote while Trump had an electoral college win. When people started grumbling about getting rid of the electoral college, that's when this idea of the US not being a Democracy seems to have become common in pro-Trump circles.
It's only when there's the appearance that Democrats are the majority does majority rule get criticized so much. Like you just mentioned:
When there's the idea that liberals in big cities outnumber conservatives in the rest of the country, then we see the opinion that majority rule is bad.
But when we see people insisting that conservatives actually outnumber liberals in the US, (something I see mentioned frequently here) then majority rule is good.
And it's not just limited to politics. Some of the most passionate arguments I've seen in favor of majority rule comes from this very board.
When the conversation turns to religion, majority rule is favored because Christianity is the majority religion here. When the conversation turns to racial or cultural issues, again, majority rule is favored because white people and traditions and culture based on Western European influences is the majority here.
I don't really have an issue with any of that, other than the general dislike of hypocrisy.
The biggest issue I have is that so many people have no clue what they're talking about in regards to what Democracies and Republics are, and they're just loud and proud in their ignorance. It doesn't reflect well on their general education nor their research skills. And perhaps the worst of all, they run amok in the world telling people how shitty democracy is and making us all look ignorant by association.
It’s bc “”many” confuse democracy and direct democracy which would be the purest form of a democracy
*I know the differences and I also know my audiences.
To me if ppl here and other place are confusing the terms, yet, they’re ideas and hearts are in the right place I toss it up to semantics.
It's not semantics when they have no clue what either actually mean. It's just plain ignorance. Prideful, willful ignorance. Especially considering how often they just shit talk about how horrible democracy is. I don't think that's having their ideas or their hearts in the right place.
And yet,, if you ask them if they support a democratic republic they would adamently say yes! I find that response to “ultimately” be what’s important and have learnt not to hold a grudge against the folks that don’t fully understand what we are suppose to be operating as.
One of the main reasons we are having to live through this shitshow “psyop” right now is to somehow reverse engineer ppls current understandings. Those understandings were put on us through our education system, media, entertainment industry, government, intelligence agencies etc.. So I understand why ppl don’t know about these things, I don’t accept it as ok, but I understand how and why it’s happened.
Where do you see anyone saying they would support a democratic republic?
Have you actually had any conversations with anyone here regarding such things? Or are you just guessing that's how they feel?
I, however, have had discussions with several of the people here about it, and they sure as shit weren't adamantly saying they would support a democratic republic.
Here's a link to some conversations I had a couple weeks ago. Pay close attention to how they not only speak about democracy, but democratic Republics.
Maybe you can show me all the enthusiastic approval you think they have for either. Because I sure as hell don't see it.
https://greatawakening.win/p/17shvx5rkP/liberals-this-is-how-we-save-dem/