But now we have a censored version of that too...
Can't speak to the action that should be happening without getting banned and shit.... should not be able to make the comparison here... those patriots did actual foot on ground work
Willing to hear opposing thoughts
(I neither condemn nor condone action against anyone who deserves it etc etc (for mods))
If fixing cancer was possible simply by fixing your diet (which it may be), would it be better to do that, or take the lazy option and skip straight to surgery and tissue extraction?
The patriots you speak of ran years of petitions, diplomacy, entreaties, etc. Things didn’t escalate until their hands were forced after years of effort. “A long train of abuses”.
There have been successes fighting them in the courts, because they have neither truth nor the law on their side, only “because I said so”, which can be beaten.
Pursuing other options is necessary; far, far better, and still possible.
People die on operating tables. We can’t skip steps.
How long does this train of abuses need to be?
Where did theirs end?
People are dying in the streets, basketball courts, comedy clubs etc now.
At what line, it could be me being impatient but it could also be a reasonable expectation. Making the cancer comparison, if you took action at the beginning you could mimimise it (diet and such) but when it is at the level it could be surgically removed before moving to a more dangerous place or level you remove it with surgery.
Finesse and professionalism is still possible... I'm not asking for a back alley operation, I want a well planned and done surgery with people who are the best for the job in the place for the job with the right tools for the job, whatever they may be.
But now we have a censored version of that too... Can't speak to the action that should be happening without getting banned and shit.... should not be able to make the comparison here... those patriots did actual foot on ground work
Willing to hear opposing thoughts
(I neither condemn nor condone action against anyone who deserves it etc etc (for mods))
If fixing cancer was possible simply by fixing your diet (which it may be), would it be better to do that, or take the lazy option and skip straight to surgery and tissue extraction?
The patriots you speak of ran years of petitions, diplomacy, entreaties, etc. Things didn’t escalate until their hands were forced after years of effort. “A long train of abuses”.
There have been successes fighting them in the courts, because they have neither truth nor the law on their side, only “because I said so”, which can be beaten.
Pursuing other options is necessary; far, far better, and still possible.
People die on operating tables. We can’t skip steps.
How long does this train of abuses need to be? Where did theirs end?
People are dying in the streets, basketball courts, comedy clubs etc now.
At what line, it could be me being impatient but it could also be a reasonable expectation. Making the cancer comparison, if you took action at the beginning you could mimimise it (diet and such) but when it is at the level it could be surgically removed before moving to a more dangerous place or level you remove it with surgery.
Finesse and professionalism is still possible... I'm not asking for a back alley operation, I want a well planned and done surgery with people who are the best for the job in the place for the job with the right tools for the job, whatever they may be.
You make good points tho I'm not fully persuaded